The suddenly very quotable John Carmack is quoted on Eurogamer saying Steve Jobs not being a gamer is the reason Apple doesn't "deeply get" gaming, as he commented during his QuakeCon 2008 keynote. The full quote, extracted from a lengthier Q&A, gives a bit more context, while also recognizing that he's probably going to tick off the Apple honcho with his comments: "The truth is Steve Jobs doesn't care about games. This is going to be one of those things that I say something in an interview and it gets fed back to him and I'm on his s***head list for a while on that, until he needs me to do something else there. But I think that that's my general opinion. He's not a gamer."