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General Discussion > Star Wars Spoiler Thread
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3. No subject Dec 15, 2017, 20:12 Slick
So I feel that the 2 major plotholes for me were:

1) The whole premise of them slightly outrunning the First Order. I mean, it's so dumb and EVERYTHING hinges on it. If the commander lady could lightspeed through their main ship's hull at any time, why didn't the medical ship think of doing that? How could that ship the size of about 50 destroyers not have 500,000 tie fighters just rip the Resistance ships to shreds?



So the FO is tracking the big ship, so small ships can get away without anyone noticing, right? What about Finn and asian girl escaping on a small ship, going to lightspeed and playing a few rounds of baccarat? WHAT THE FUCK. Why couldn't everyone do that? Surely the "transports" could hit lightspeed, considering just about every ship in the galaxy can do lightspeed...

and 2)

Luke Skywalker tried to kill Ben Solo, even for a moment. This is so out of character, even if it was a split second. And then the first half of the movie Luke is just basically Yoda from empire, "no I won't train you" "okay I'll train you"... just grumpy... And then he fucking dies after some astral projection shit at the end, WTF. WHY. His body just gave out, like his mom lol. So dumb.
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2. No subject Dec 15, 2017, 19:31 RedEye9
Whats up with the resistance ships being able to cruise seemingly "forever"** just out of reach of the First Order's far superior strength and firepower. Were they using OJ Simpson Bronco tech.
**fuel limitations apply

Are we supposed to feel for the hospital ships captain for going down with the Mercy/Comfort. wat the wat

The ability to track through hyper space is one big glaring plot hole, would have been more believable if Kylo tracked Ren using the force "facetime" shared feature..

So we are supposed to believe Finn is going to act like a kid in a candy shop (all googlie eyed in the casino) when the fate of the Resistance rests on him finding the crypto cracker. FINN FAILURE

The salt ski scene with the t-top bathtubs was painful and scaled horribly. One minute they are tearing through the desert gaining ground on the Walkers and the Death Starô battering ram. The next minute switches to an overhead shot showing them barely making headway. rinse repeat
Note: what is the side impact rating of a sand ski bathtub, why is Rose hurt hurt while Finn who receives a sideways blow narry has a concussion. These look safer

So the top gun pilot is responsible for the loss of every heavy bomber that the resistance has along with the related crew. But he just gets docked a weeks pay. Poe should be in the pokie for disobeying a direct order, endangering the resistance etc.

They could have trimmed 10 minutes of LUKE ISLAND and nothing would have been lost. But they managed to create this years hottest new stocking stuffer and turn Chewie vegan.

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Laura Dern, a little slow on turning that ship around. nuff said
The Magical Mountain Goat Clydesdales, the rich got everything.
And if Benicio Del Torro was so good at crack a lacken, why was he still in his cell. (or was he a plant)

Emotionally the film was dry.
i will say one good thing about the movie, at 2.5 hours i did not feel like sleeping or leaving the theatre (same can't be said for Blade Runner ####)

Don't get me wrong, the last jedi was not horrible, I just NEEDED IT TO BE BETTER.

Coolest moments were the hand to hand fisticuffs (light saber cuffs?) The Luke final battle not so much. If you hit your opponent with your best shot (or repeated explosive laser blasts capable of destroying x&a-wings) and they are still standing, it's time to run.

Another cool fact, i did not have to pee during the whole movie, something to be said for intentionally dehydrating oneself.

Aw jeez, almost forget the hand twitching, surfing through space, frozen peter quill Mary Poppins starflight. hur durr

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1. Star Wars Spoiler Thread Dec 15, 2017, 18:36 jdreyer
Hey Bluesers,

Starting this thread so we can have discussion about the film outside of the other threads and without having to use the spoiler tags.

What did you like or dislike?
What were the coolest moments or biggest plot holes?

Overall I really liked the film. It's the most intense SW film yet, with actors and a director that can carry that emotional burden. Gone is the woodenness of the prequels.

There were some plot holes and conveniences. If that guy could get out of jail any time, why was he still there? Why aren't the ships adhering to Newtonian physics when they run out of fuel? And nothing we learn about Rey explains her competence at so many disciplines.

Still these didn't detract from the film too much for me. It was a great ride.
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