jdreyer wrote on Dec 22, 2017, 12:38:
RedEye9 wrote on Dec 22, 2017, 09:34:
'Last Jedi' Grosses Are Collapsing With The Worst Daily Holds Of All 9 Star Wars Movies
Surprised i say, surprised.
That's a bummer. It's the most interesting film since the original trilogy, even with its faults. That means they'll take Rian Johnson's original trilogy away. Not that he'll care too much. He'll just go back to writing and directing excellent indie films.
It also means that all future Star Wars movies will be soulless predictable schlock directed by the likes of JJ Abrams and Michael Bay.
It means that maybe fans don't want a 'dark' film in their favorite series (or trilogy) just for the sake of being 'dark'. I really think that was one of the thought processes behind this film.
'
Empire was dark, so we have to be...usually the second in a trilogy is dark, so we have to be'. No.
'We have to be 'different' and 'unexpected' because it's never been done in a Star Wars film before!'. No.
'The fans wanted something different and not just a rehash of the old stuff in a new wrapper'. Eh...kinda?
Rogue One did a good job of taking established canon and making an original, exciting story out of it. The more times I watch it, the more I like it (and not just because it's set in the OT time period). Sure, they threw Vader in for 'fan service' but what they did with him was awesome and considered one of the best bad-ass scenes with the character. And it apparently came at the last minute and almost didn't end up in the film at all.
TLJ feels like Johnson didn't understand what made the OT great. Yeah, it was 80's camp at times but it also made you feel good to watch it, even
Empire. At the end of
RotJ, what did you feel? How did you think it would continue had the series kept going from there? I'm willing to bet that no one considered it'd be anything like it is in
TLJ. The EU books/novels show this to be true. Even if they themselves got damn dark during the Vong era and got stuck in a loop of rebuilding the Republic (or something like it) only to tear it down again over and over, the first ten years or so of the EU was great, exciting and hopeful. Everything made sense (eh, for the most part) as to what happened to the characters after the films. They didn't all fall into mid-life depressions and go off to become hermits/space truckers. What I'm saying is that it didn't
have to be deep, dark and depressing to be entertaining.
And we don't
have to kill off everyone to get a clean slate with new characters, dammit!
Stop killing my heroes for lulz!=-Rigs-=
Survivor of the 12/10/21 Mayfield EF4 tornado'Sorry, we thought you were dead.'
'I was. I'm better now.'