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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 18:34
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 18:34
Jul 7, 2009, 18:34
 
I bought some refurb BDP-1200s for 100-200 bucks for the house. I actually have 5 Blu-ray players if you count 2 PS3s (Which I do not use for watching movies). So there is one in the bedroom too. I passed 100 blu movies long ago, but I do a lot of renting from Netflix. I can stream Netflix/Pandora on my Samsung Blu-ray players if I want too (firmware integrated awhile ago).

It's always a nice present to get the wife a favorite movie on Blu-ray. Pride and Prejudice was a big hit with the wife around here.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 18:00
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 18:00
Jul 7, 2009, 18:00
 
Because wider is better. There are wider tvs than 16:9. Eventually we'll move to a new standard. It'll be good.

Some shoot in 16:9. Some use different ones. Depends on a ton of factors.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 16:44
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 16:44
Jul 7, 2009, 16:44
 
What I'd like to know is who is the idiot that decided settling on the 16:9 ratio all of these new HD widescreen TVs are these days when movies are shot in an even wider asepct. So because of that we still get the black bars. Dumb.as.shit.

The movie industry needs to start shooting in 16x9. I hate black bars. Everyone is on 16x9 so quit using your ultra wide film already. Everything on the DVD or Blu-Ray is 16x9, so make the movie 16x9 as well. Piracy ads, and menus appear to fit the screen just fine so why don't you fix your movies to do it as well? You bragged about how big the BD discs were so put both version on there, the 16x9 version and the theatrical version with letterboxing.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 16:27
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 16:27
Jul 7, 2009, 16:27
 
So because of that we still get the black bars. Dumb.as.shit.

Yes lets make the HDTV's 2:39:1 so that we can watch television broadcasts on a 14" window on our 50" ultra widescreen TV's. Dumber.than.shit.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 15:54
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 15:54
Jul 7, 2009, 15:54
 
Hey, I just wanted a reliable, next-gen gaming rig that didn't die and played Blu-ray. Turns out I got all that and more. (Thx playOn and Netflix!)
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 14:43
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 14:43
Jul 7, 2009, 14:43
 
It's probably a decent trade-off. Since the big Panavision (or whatever) films are 2.4:1 or 1.85:1, you'd get substantial black bars on the sides when watching films that are 16x9, and a lot are.

Either way, you're looking at letterboxing or chopping of some sort. Because films come in all sorts of aspect ratios, you lose one way or the other. Given the option, I'd probably go a little wider though. You also have to keep television and other things in mind, where such wide aspect ratios might not be practical.

I bet there are all sorts of technical reasons too like cost of cameras, the ideal screen size for your average living room, and those sorts of things.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 14:01
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 14:01
Jul 7, 2009, 14:01
 
What I'd like to know is who is the idiot that decided settling on the 16:9 ratio all of these new HD widescreen TVs are these days when movies are shot in an even wider asepct. So because of that we still get the black bars. Dumb.as.shit.

I always thought the point of a widescreen TV was to watch the movie the way it was shot and in theaters without the black bars we would get on the old square CRTs.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 13:30
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 13:30
Jul 7, 2009, 13:30
 
Regardless of whether or not the letterboxed film includes the area without the picture, if the screen only has 1080 lines it would make no difference anyways, you'd be losing vertical resolution. I couldn't tell you for sure about the actual lines in the picture, though you could surely look that up, but with DVDs the bars were not part of the image itself so it would always have the full vertical resolution regardless and the horizontal would be the same for fullscreen and widescreen but widescreen would be stretched to fill the screen like the anamorphic widescreen they use for film. It's likely it's the same with Blu-Ray.

You should look all this up if you're really intersted. This is just from memory and I could be wrong.

edit: I believe what it boils down to is that you get the same resolution in the actual picture data regardless of the area of the screen it fills (if you're not zooming and cutting out picture data on the sides, but if the screen only has 1080, you'd be losing something either way), so it depends on what the screen can draw.

This comment was edited on Jul 7, 2009, 13:38.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 13:12
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 13:12
Jul 7, 2009, 13:12
 
You don't watch your movies in letterbox? I'd rather give up part of my screen that part of the film.

I'd rather have the size of my TV used to the fullest than keep the last few inches on either side of a film. Most movies put object directly in the center, it's rare to use the sides. 2001 or 2010 comes to mind, those 2 guys speaking, mouths on either side of the screen while Hal was watching...

And I'm curious about the whole 1080p resolution and the movies letterboxing. Does each frame of the movie include letter boxing? So are those black bars part of the image? Which means that you do get the full 1920 across but you don't get the full 1080 from top to bottom?

I really want it to zoom. I hate those black bars. FUCKING HATE THEM.

This comment was edited on Jul 7, 2009, 13:13.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 12:54
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 12:54
Jul 7, 2009, 12:54
 
I've come across many DVD's, though always rentals (or second-hand, previously viewed jobs), that won't let you skip the previews. Disney/Pixar movies stand out.

You don't watch your movies in letterbox? I'd rather give up part of my screen that part of the film. There's nothing wrong with that though if that's the way you like it and they should let you zoom, and besides widescreen pan-and-scan isn't so bad, not nearly as bad as 4:3 pan-and-scan which absolutely wrecks films.

ed: Oh yeah, and on the topic of Blu-Ray one day it ought to be okay if it isn't made obsolete by streaming/on-demand. Though I'd rather own the actual disk, I'm sure as hell not replacing my DVD collection. I'll buy new films on Blu-Ray though, when they all cost the same as DVD's. $30 for a film? Hell no.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 12:19
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 12:19
Jul 7, 2009, 12:19
 
EMA survey says '87 percent' of PS3 owners watch Blu-ray flicks. Nod like you believe it.

That is probably the amount of people that have watched a Blu-Ray at one point in time... I just bought the system so put two movies on my netflix que (Casino Royale and Pirates of the Caribbean) and that will probably be the last time I watch one. It bugs the fucking shit out of me that I can't just hit menu and skip all the nonsense that you are forced to watch in the beginning. It bugs me that the disc doesn't just load straight to the menu. You can skip each clip but god forbid you just want to watch the movie you put into the system, can't make getting to it easy... (This could be worse on rentals, and isn't an issue with retail purchases...but I doubt it)

Then there is the lack of convience, I can't move to my bedroom to watch the movies...or my laptop, or anything other than the ps3...

And then when the movies started both of them had letterboxing so a major portion of my screen isn't used...would be nice to zoom...sadly that isn't an option. All that quality and you never thought that zooming the movie to fit would be important!?

I remember watching Pirates on TNT HD or some cable network around the time that the movie was released on Blu-Ray, it looked great and it was zoomed to fill the whole screen (aspect ratio preserved obviously) and I was looking forward to that again... sorry, not possible with the actual movie on ps3. I could not be more disappointed with Blu-Ray. I guess it's designed for people who want 1080p movies on a 1080p TV to only use 75% of the screen...is that even 1080p?!
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 11:34
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 11:34
Jul 7, 2009, 11:34
 
I almost wonder on that PS3 Blu-ray stat if they end up counting people like myself with a PS3 and a sizable Blu-Ray collection (~70 movies at last count) as multiple, heh.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jul 7, 2009, 10:15
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jul 7, 2009, 10:15
Jul 7, 2009, 10:15
 
EMA survey says '87 percent' of PS3 owners watch Blu-ray flicks. Nod like you believe it.

Seems more likely that EMA just came into some newfound Sony cash considering NPD's last survey had well over half of PS3 owners not even knowing what Blu-Ray was, let alone how to play one.

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