TF2 Sniper Update Thursday

The "Meet the Spy" Team Fortress 2 trailer leaked over the weekend is no longer leaked, as it is now available on the Steam Website as a streaming clip with a high-resolution version for download. This and a list of Spy Achievements are today's installment in the run-up to the launch of the Sniper (and Spy) update, which Valve now says to expect on Thursday. There are also a couple of cute references to the video leak, the "act surprised" caption to open the movie, and their Valve Corporate achievement: "UNLOCKED - Welcome to the internets: Fail to understand what 'Private' means on YouTube."
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Re: ViRGE
May 19, 2009, 19:46
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Re: ViRGE May 19, 2009, 19:46
May 19, 2009, 19:46
 
And no, the videos are CG, not in-game. Sure, they use ASSETS from the game, but not the game engine itself. They render it frame by frame but it's set up to LOOK something like the game. Last time I checked, TF2 doesn't have volumetric lighting or true shadows. Both features are plentiful in the Spy video.

Exactly the opposite. It's done in engine with higher quality models and lighting effects. You can very clearly see the creation process in action with the creation of the Left4Dead intro video, which was done by the same team that does the Meet the...Videos: http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2081

Show me where in the youtube version you could even tell it had been changed. I think you guys are trippin on some good shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN4cRDEYalw at 0:05, you can see in the corner where the "Leaked Video" box should be has different spacing. To illustrate: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w229/zyrxil/blowup.png . You can see where I circled in red is the space between words, which is clearly to the Left of center black line between the boxes. Compare with http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/763/18039184.jpg , where the spacing in the Leaked Video box is clearly to the right of the black line.

Yeah, because they never would lie to us. Robin Walker said that over 100 people have been fired over this incident. Because Robin never lies to us.
Jesus Christ, do you not know what self-deprecating humor is? Stavros the Greek intern? It's a joke and everyone is in on it except you, apparently.
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Re: ViRGE
May 19, 2009, 17:02
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Re: ViRGE May 19, 2009, 17:02
May 19, 2009, 17:02
 
Robin Walker said that over 100 people have been fired over this incident. Because Robin never lies to us.

He was being funny...as in sarcasm. Trollbashing

basic understanding of social life

Yea, cus you're one to talk about any kind of "social life".
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Re: ViRGE
May 19, 2009, 11:23
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Re: ViRGE May 19, 2009, 11:23
May 19, 2009, 11:23
 
If Valve says it was leaked, it was leaked. They're not morons and they know we're not morons. They wouldn't be claiming it was leaked if it wasn't.

Yeah, because they never would lie to us. Robin Walker said that over 100 people have been fired over this incident. Because Robin never lies to us.

When Half-Life 2 was being developed there was a leak. That's what this is about. You have to hand it to Valve though, they know how to fool the dimwitted of the world.... I mean the ViRGE's of the world... I mean the uneducated gamers who dropped out of high school to play more video games and don't have even a basic understanding of social life to realize when their being made fun of...

I have one word for anyone that believes this was a real leak: IDIOT!
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 11:08
Dev
 
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 11:08
May 19, 2009, 11:08
 Dev
 
everyone: I already said it in my comment, but I'll say it again for you. Examine the spacing of the blurred words in that spot. Its definately differant.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 06:10
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 06:10
May 19, 2009, 06:10
 
Guys, I never meant to suggest they'd have to re-render the ENTIRE video, just that small sequence where the wall grid appeared.

And no, the videos are CG, not in-game. Sure, they use ASSETS from the game, but not the game engine itself. They render it frame by frame but it's set up to LOOK something like the game. Last time I checked, TF2 doesn't have volumetric lighting or true shadows. Both features are plentiful in the Spy video.

Show me where in the youtube version you could even tell it had been changed. I think you guys are trippin on some good shit.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 02:38
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 02:38
May 19, 2009, 02:38
 
everyone:
Not that hard to re-render that 1 second or whatever and use a video editor to splice in the replacement second.
Or if the other guy is right and they use something like garry's mod and in game engine, it would be even easier.

Did you even look at the youtube link? The question isn't does the new one look doctored (which it wouldn't need to look), the question is does it look differant from the youtube.
Exactly, and the answer is yes: it's been changed.

If Valve says it was leaked, it was leaked. They're not morons and they know we're not morons. They wouldn't be claiming it was leaked if it wasn't.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 02:19
Dev
 
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 02:19
May 19, 2009, 02:19
 Dev
 
everyone:
Not that hard to re-render that 1 second or whatever and use a video editor to splice in the replacement second.
Or if the other guy is right and they use something like garry's mod and in game engine, it would be even easier.

Did you even look at the youtube link? The question isn't does the new one look doctored (which it wouldn't need to look), the question is does it look differant from the youtube.

This comment was edited on May 19, 2009, 02:20.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 01:57
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 01:57
May 19, 2009, 01:57
 
Uh, the only conspiracy theory is that the video was leaked on purpose. They do these completely in engine, it wouldn't take them long at all to redo those few seconds.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 01:28
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 01:28
May 19, 2009, 01:28
 
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2606/spyvidgrid.jpg

It doesn't look doctored to me. They would have had to entirely re-render that sequence to get that text in there if it had said something else before. I'm pretty sure it didn't. The video was "leaked" on purpose. It's just creative genius at work at Valve. Stop with the fucking conspiracy theories already. This isn't a DNF thread. >:\
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 00:53
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 00:53
May 19, 2009, 00:53
 
either way, this is just hilariously entertaining. kudos to valve making a possible screwup into something so funny. just goes to prove that supporting a game goes further than just patching it up now and then... keeping the community amused by even little things like this makes a difference.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 00:16
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 00:16
May 19, 2009, 00:16
 
I don't know what's better, Valve making hilarious jabs at a mistake, or Valve doing a great job engineering a leak, then poking fun at that 'mistake', all the while adding subtle hints that they've done it all on purpose.

Either way, it's well played by Valve.

Edit: oo good eye Dev! looks like Valve sneaked in yet another jab at their screw up =P

This comment was edited on May 19, 2009, 00:22.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 19, 2009, 00:09
Dev
 
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 19, 2009, 00:09
May 19, 2009, 00:09
 Dev
 
spindoctor:
Look at the leaked youtube on those frames in the HQ versions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN4cRDEYalw
You can't read it but you can see the space in the words and its not in same place. I'm pretty sure they re-did those few frames for the monday release.

So your pic doesn't really mean anything
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 23:24
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 23:24
May 18, 2009, 23:24
 
Apparently Robin Walker fired everyone at Valve, even the Greek intern.

http://teamfortress.com/
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 22:54
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 22:54
May 18, 2009, 22:54
 
Or, like the achievement says, someone at valve failed to understand what 'Private' means on Youtube.

have a look at this - http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/763/18039184.jpg

do you still think it was an accident?

This comment was edited on May 18, 2009, 22:54.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 22:52
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 22:52
May 18, 2009, 22:52
 
They leaked it on purpose, dummy.

Or, like the achievement says, someone at valve failed to understand what 'Private' means on Youtube.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 22:40
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 22:40
May 18, 2009, 22:40
 
Well played indeed. Gotta love Valve for having a good sense of humour on the early leak issue.

facepalm.jpg

They leaked it on purpose, dummy.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 21:55
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 21:55
May 18, 2009, 21:55
 
Well played indeed. Gotta love Valve for having a good sense of humour on the early leak issue.

This comment was edited on May 18, 2009, 21:58.
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 20:25
RP
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 20:25
May 18, 2009, 20:25
RP
 
The Alert Board is now my favorite TF2-related gag.

I'd love to see it added to a whimsical map. Record the Announcer saying each phrase and string them together based on various triggers the players set off. TF2 adlib FTW! Remember when TFC server admins would make vox say stupid shit?
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 20:25
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 20:25
May 18, 2009, 20:25
 
It's a paradox, the leak video was in the brief case (with the 'your mum' porn like I've always thought)!
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday
May 18, 2009, 20:05
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Re: TF2 Sniper Update Thursday May 18, 2009, 20:05
May 18, 2009, 20:05
 
Well played, Valve. That's how you turn lemons into lemonade.

[Edit] - On the Soldier's big wall of messages, second row from bottom, second from left says "leaked video."

This comment was edited on May 18, 2009, 20:12.
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