Microsoft Stores

Microsoft confirms plans to open retail stores has word that Microsoft is looking to take part of its massive retail presence in-house with the creation of Microsoft retail stores, presumably in the vein of Apple's successful line of stores. That's not 100% clear yet, though, as word is: "Microsoft has not yet announced any plans for particular locations, or if the stores will directly sell computers or provide a place for customers to demo the software."
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 15, 2009, 18:38
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 15, 2009, 18:38
Feb 15, 2009, 18:38
 
Apple has flubbed many times. the no button mouse and hockey puck mouse were hilariously poorly designed. The g3 cube had major heat dissipation issues and disappeared after one year. it was expensive too, and consumers really got the shaft if they bought one of those. The interior design of the G3 and G4 cases were terrible and the powerPC CPU's were too slow to run first gen OSX at a reasonable speed.

Oh and best of all the GUI of OSX is STILL 32bit code.

There's lots more but that's what comes to mind. I like some of Apple's products but I'll take WinXP with a good intel-based ASUS board any day over Apple.

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Feb 14, 2009, 14:59
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 14, 2009, 14:59
Feb 14, 2009, 14:59
 
Mac's OS and GUI was derivative too... just sayin'

Even AppleII was derivative of the "build a computer" hobby kit.

iPod wasn't the first MP3 player.

In fact, Apple has always prided themselves on *not* being the first to do something, but being the ones who put a slick shine on it.

Once again...not the point. Does Apple have a long long history of copying the direction of other companies? Does Sun? Does Texas Instruments? Does Intel? Does IBM?

Sure, some of the above companies' product releases are derivative of other stuff, of course. But they do not have long long histories of it.

Capice?
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 14, 2009, 01:30
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 14, 2009, 01:30
Feb 14, 2009, 01:30
 
Fourth through 1,345th week: Microsoft release a series of patches, one per week, that prevents one specific thief from entering the store.

The larger solution : Actually putting a FOURTH WALL in the store so thieves can't just come in through the back, still escapes Microsoft.

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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 21:54
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 21:54
Feb 13, 2009, 21:54
 
True, but at least all those companies listed in some way *improved* on what they took before they sold their version.

With OSX in particular, it's easy to improve something between iterations when you start by selling the beta.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 21:52
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 21:52
Feb 13, 2009, 21:52
 
Yes, I know. But that's not the point. The point is that Microsoft's entire history is embarrassingly replete with examples of follow-the-leader.

Mac's OS and GUI was derivative too... just sayin'

Even AppleII was derivative of the "build a computer" hobby kit.

iPod wasn't the first MP3 player.

In fact, Apple has always prided themselves on *not* being the first to do something, but being the ones who put a slick shine on it.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 21:49
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 21:49
Feb 13, 2009, 21:49
 
First week: the doors to the store fail to open.
Second week: the doors to the store only open when the user manually presses a button, allowing the doors to open.
Third week: the doors to the store always stay open, allowing thieves to enter the store at will.
Fourth through 1,345th week: Microsoft release a series of patches, one per week, that prevents one specific thief from entering the store.

Compaired to the Apple store, which has no locks, no security cameras, no anti-theft systems, and nobody really watching the store, because thieves can't be bothered driving out to Siberia to visit the one store that's open.

And when you peel the Apple sticker off of your product, you see that it was simply restickered from a Salvation Army giveaway.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 17:24
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 17:24
Feb 13, 2009, 17:24
 
Be nice to have the XBox stuff all in one place....
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 17:03
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 17:03
Feb 13, 2009, 17:03
 
Maybe MS will come back with their Joysticks, they made a great series of joysticks that worked fantastically.

Quite frankly I can't see the point in this. Pretty much all computer retail sites are Microsoft Stores. This looks like either an enormous mistake, or a viral hoax that's working.

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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 15:24
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 15:24
Feb 13, 2009, 15:24
 
How many purely non-derivative (<--this is the key part) innovations by Microsoft can you name?

Terraserver (later 'borrowed' to become google maps)
The new picture stitching stuff they're doing

Both MS tools I didn't see elsewhere.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 14:35
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 14:35
Feb 13, 2009, 14:35
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Can we expect to see broken glass everywhere?
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 14:12
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 14:12
Feb 13, 2009, 14:12
 
Here's something Microsoft innovated: the mouse scroll wheel. The Intellimouse line included the first mainstream mouse to feature a scroll wheel, as well as the first to feature a tilting wheel (for scrolling left and right). Scroll wheels weren't invented by MS, but they were the first ones to fully implement it in a useful manner (e.g. building full support into Windows).

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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 13:52
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 13:52
Feb 13, 2009, 13:52
 
To be fair (I know it's cool to bash big bad evil MS, but bear with me), several of the source products you mention are derivative products themselves. For example, MacOSX came from Unix/Linux, and Sun Javascript had many influences.

True, but at least all those companies listed in some way *improved* on what they took before they sold their version.
You cannot make anything fool-proof. The fools are too inventive

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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 12:49
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 12:49
Feb 13, 2009, 12:49
 
To be fair (I know it's cool to bash big bad evil MS, but bear with me), several of the source products you mention are derivative products themselves.

Yes, I know. But that's not the point. The point is that Microsoft's entire history is embarrassingly replete with examples of follow-the-leader.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 12:46
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 12:46
Feb 13, 2009, 12:46
 
How many purely non-derivative (<--this is the key part) innovations by Microsoft can you name?
To be fair (I know it's cool to bash big bad evil MS, but bear with me), several of the source products you mention are derivative products themselves. For example, MacOSX came from Unix/Linux, and Sun Javascript had many influences.

How many purely non-derivative innovations by any company can you name? The tech industry is all about derivation - it's certainly true of programming languages, all of which are heavily influenced by preceding languages.

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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 12:38
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Feb 13, 2009, 12:38
 
First week: the doors to the store fail to open.
Second week: the doors to the store only open when the user manually presses a button, allowing the doors to open.
Third week: the doors to the store always stay open, allowing thieves to enter the store at will.
Fourth through 1,345th week: Microsoft release a series of patches, one per week, that prevents one specific thief from entering the store.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 12:22
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Feb 13, 2009, 12:22
 
How many purely non-derivative (<--this is the key part) innovations by Microsoft can you name?

BSoD and Microsoft Bob!
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 12:08
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 12:08
Feb 13, 2009, 12:08
 
I see some people here might be Farkers...

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4208027

Good link with lots of talk about this subject.
The amount of damage done to the US in the first week alone has to have China and Russia laughing at us.
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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 11:57
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Re: Microsoft Stores Feb 13, 2009, 11:57
Feb 13, 2009, 11:57
 
  • Apple's GUI (courtesy of Xerox) and OS/2 begat Windows
  • Playstation begat X-Box
  • Wordstar/Word Perfect begat Word
  • Lotus 1-2-3 begat Excel
  • iPod begat Zune
  • Google search begat Live Search
  • Mac OSX begat Vista
  • Sun Javascript begat MS Javashit
  • Netscape Navigator begat Internet Explorer
  • Prodigy and AOL begat MSN
  • iTunes begat MSN Music

How many purely non-derivative (<--this is the key part) innovations by Microsoft can you name?

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Feb 13, 2009, 11:40
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Feb 13, 2009, 11:40
 
Boy that sounds exciting. A store full of Microsoft junk! Imagine, you could see boxes of Windows software, boxes of Office software, boxes of SQL Server software, all of the five games that Microsoft has produced. Some keyboards and mice.
And a replica of the Xbox section of every other electronics store in the world.

Oh, and the Zune!

Man, I might as well just bring a cot. I'd never leave!

Huh

Creston

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Re: Microsoft Stores
Feb 13, 2009, 11:13
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Feb 13, 2009, 11:13
 
I suspect they are planning on a few showrooms in major metro areas to showcase the launch of Windows 7. Not actual retail stores. WIth open retail space so cheap now, it's easy advertising/PR to setup up something in NYC, Dallas, San Fran, Seattle, etc.

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