Op Ed

IGN- Is Casual Gaming Destroying the Industry? Thanks Ant.
"But is that good or bad for games? It can be looked at any number of ways, really. On one hand, you could make the argument that in these trying economic times videogames need to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Perfectly logical statement. But on the other hand there's this galley of hardcore, diehard videogame fans that feel slightly alienated by 'dumbing down' games."

Could WoW Be Considered a Religion. Thanks Mike Martinez and WorldofWar.Net.
"The radical newness of cyberspace lies in its ability to make time and space relative. The network of computers all over the world is always present, is attainable seemingly everywhere and offers a new mediation to experience. When we conduct a spiritual quest as we search for a framework to live with, cyberspace offers endless possibilities for searching, finding, and searching further."

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Re: Blame Dr. Spock.
Feb 1, 2009, 10:13
Enahs
 
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock. Feb 1, 2009, 10:13
Feb 1, 2009, 10:13
 Enahs
 
No you tard. I know how to google.

I was making a reference to how people always screew up Spock from Star Trek and call him Dr.Spock when he was Mr.Spock.


You suck at jokes.

This comment was edited on Feb 1, 2009, 10:15.
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Re: Op Ed
Feb 1, 2009, 03:35
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Re: Op Ed Feb 1, 2009, 03:35
Feb 1, 2009, 03:35
 
There is no such thing as virtual reality. There is no such thing as tangible cyberspace.

There is, however, porn.

Amen.

And as far as Hollywood blockbusters are concerned, the games these days lack very basic special effects and details.

You know the industry is lacking when they can't even get Scorpion's spear right.

Soldier of Fortune: Payback must have been seeking revenge on the franchise.

The new Fear game's gore SUCKS ASS. The first one was pretty good though.

MK vs. DC?!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

Kudos to Rockstar despite their shitty decals for some relatively satisfying gore effects.

Poor Sega... All that energy in their art department and no-one to carry it through in the general effects detail. It was boring shooting people in The Club.

If you make a first person shooter game where it is boring to shoot people, you are an idiot.

The minute I saw energy weapons in Hellgate: London, I prepared for something bad. I didn't expect what was there though.

Diablo made it satisfying to kill a fucking SKELETON!!!!!!

YOU CALL YOURSELVES DIABLO DEVELOPERS?!?!?!?!

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Re: Blame Dr. Spock.
Feb 1, 2009, 02:24
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock. Feb 1, 2009, 02:24
Feb 1, 2009, 02:24
 
+1 Free Mumra!

we've turned an entire generation into a bunch of lazy dullards with bad hair

ROFL! So true. By the gods I hate that bedhead look. Like taking the time to groom one's self and look good is somehow a bad thing. Give me slick hair and sharp suits ala Sinatra/Mad Men of the late 50's/early 60's any day of the week. Women still love a sharp dressed men. Whenever I'm out in one of my suits and groomed to the 9's it never ceases to amaze me how women react in general. The sheer volume of them checking you out and greatly approving is a trip.

At least as compared to the halcyon days of Sierra, Origin, Microprose, Dynamix, Black Isle, Bullfrog, Looking Glass, and many other brilliant developers.

Oh baby, does that take me back to the good ol' days. Ahh Prez, stop it, you're making me misty.

What is religion?

Religion: (noun - 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

So, no, WoW couldn't be considered a religion. Cyberspace though? Ghost in the Shell, anyone? I still disagree. The net is still nothing more than a tool for research or a vehicle for entertainment - and pr0n, must not forget the pr0n!

The author makes the major mistake of confusing virtual reality with virtual fantasy. Virtual reality is nothing more than an electronic interpetation of reality as we know it, with all its various rules in effect. Anything that falls outside of those boundries is fantasy, nothing more. Honestly, this article sounds like something some first year philosophy student with too much time on his hands dreamed up, as opposed to any serious treatsise on the subject.

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Re: Op Ed
Feb 1, 2009, 00:16
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Re: Op Ed Feb 1, 2009, 00:16
Feb 1, 2009, 00:16
 
PC exclusives can still be made, and still be profitable, but they can't be high-budget, and they certainly can't cater solely to the high-end market. Back in the good old days, you didn't need 3 million sales just to reach profitability.

That's fine with me. I'll gladly sacrifice presentation for depth and challenge.

Specifically, the industry's fascination with all-or-nothing big-budget games.

Truth. The industry is stuck in Hollywood Blockbuster mode which can't sustain itself. Imagine if Hollywood only produced huge, big budget movies. It wouldn't last very long.
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 23:44
RP
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 23:44
Jan 31, 2009, 23:44
RP
 
More people are playing PC games than ever before, IMHO. More people are probably buying PC games, too. But PC gaming as a whole has never really been about high sales numbers and glamor and ad blitzes. Christ, Fallout 3 has already outsold the original series.

With a few notable exceptions, PC games simply don't sell enough copies to justify spending $20+ million on a PC exclusive. Remember Crytek bitching about "only" 1.5 million copies of Crysis being sold?

PC exclusives can still be made, and still be profitable, but they can't be high-budget, and they certainly can't cater solely to the high-end market. Back in the good old days, you didn't need 3 million sales just to reach profitability.

If I spend an assload of money developing a game, I'm sure as shit going to sell it to as many people as possible, even if it means "dumbing it down" for the masses.

So I agree with Prez: the industry is destroying the industry. Specifically, the industry's fascination with all-or-nothing big-budget games.

Side note: is TF2 and L4D and HL2 not PC enough because they're also on the Xbox?

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Re: Blame Dr. Spock.
Jan 31, 2009, 22:54
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock. Jan 31, 2009, 22:54
Jan 31, 2009, 22:54
 
Who the hell is the Dr.Spock you talk about?

http://tinyurl.com/b7zn54

LOL! That's golden DG. As funny as http://www.idiotproofwebsite.com/
The most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions.
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 22:34
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 22:34
Jan 31, 2009, 22:34
 
IMO consoles are just as bad, what happened to complex games with a actual learning curve?

But I'm a complete elitest, I'll be the first to admit it, I've even worse when it comes to music and movies.


QFT

I'm not an elitist in music or movies, but I am absolutely a PC gaming elitist and with good reason. Console gaming has completely ruined games in terms of difficulty, complexity and an actual need to LEARN something to play a game, at least here in the USA.

You can blame the complete reduction of educational standards and the shear stupidity that permeates to many parts of this country.
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 22:31
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 22:31
Jan 31, 2009, 22:31
 Prez
 
I don't see casual gaming as taking a single player away from harder core games. It's a different genre. Whats killing PC gaming is consolitus, and the fact that there are very few PC games left.

A cross platform game is not a PC game.

Pretty much how I feel. Not that I don't love me some GTA (But NOT GTA IV), KOTOR, Oblivion and Fallout 3, but PC exclusives are rarer than a polar bear in Mexico these days. At least as compared to the halcyon days of Sierra, Origin, Microprose, Dynamix, Black Isle, Bullfrog, Looking Glass, and many other brilliant developers.


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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 20:01
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 20:01
Jan 31, 2009, 20:01
 
Spock is the last person who should be commenting on someone else's hair. He had the original emo cut.
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock.
Jan 31, 2009, 18:52
DG
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock. Jan 31, 2009, 18:52
Jan 31, 2009, 18:52
DG
 
Who the hell is the Dr.Spock you talk about?
http://tinyurl.com/b7zn54

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Re: Blame Dr. Spock.
Jan 31, 2009, 18:39
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock. Jan 31, 2009, 18:39
Jan 31, 2009, 18:39
 
He's that klingon guy from the old Star Trek.






(some child psychiatrist dude)
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock.
Jan 31, 2009, 18:12
Enahs
 
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Re: Blame Dr. Spock. Jan 31, 2009, 18:12
Jan 31, 2009, 18:12
 Enahs
 
Who the hell is the Dr.Spock you talk about?
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 17:49
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 17:49
Jan 31, 2009, 17:49
 
I don't see casual gaming as taking a single player away from harder core games. It's a different genre. Whats killing PC gaming is consolitus, and the fact that there are very few PC games left.

A cross platform game is not a PC game.
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Re: WoW the religion
Jan 31, 2009, 17:47
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Re: WoW the religion Jan 31, 2009, 17:47
Jan 31, 2009, 17:47
 
This is most definitely a PvP server.
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WoW the religion
Jan 31, 2009, 16:43
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WoW the religion Jan 31, 2009, 16:43
Jan 31, 2009, 16:43
 
I could get behind this. It has more believable lore than both christianity and pastafarianism. Plus, nobody has to die! Unless this is a PVP server?

"light be with you"
"ding!" is the new "mazel tov"
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Blame Dr. Spock.
Jan 31, 2009, 16:05
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Blame Dr. Spock. Jan 31, 2009, 16:05
Jan 31, 2009, 16:05
 
Dr. Spock basically said that you need to turn your children into spoiled brats. By letting them "get in touch with their feelings" instead of making them do their chores, we've turned an entire generation into a bunch of lazy dullards with bad hair who can't even rebel properly. Since even the faintest hint of a "game over" screen will turn them into blubbering piles of sadness or seething psychopaths with plans to blow up their school, we now have to endure regenerating health and unlimited continues in every game we play. In the end, it's Dr. Spock who destroyed the video game industry.
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 15:04
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 15:04
Jan 31, 2009, 15:04
 
Wow the religion..


You just gave ActiBliz the idea for their next tax dodge...
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 14:41
Prez
 
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 14:41
Jan 31, 2009, 14:41
 Prez
 
Casual gaming isn't destroying the industry. The industry is destroying the industry.
"We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far."

"Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 13:42
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 13:42
Jan 31, 2009, 13:42
 
Causal gaming is BAD for the industry, but IMO consoles are just as bad, what happened to complex games with a actual learning curve?

But I'm a complete elitest, I'll be the first to admit it, I've even worse when it comes to music and movies.
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Re: Op Ed
Jan 31, 2009, 13:34
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Re: Op Ed Jan 31, 2009, 13:34
Jan 31, 2009, 13:34
 
WoW the religion..


I cant believe I'm saying this, but if WoW became a religion it would drive me more insane then Christianity does here in the US, and I'm not even in the 'bible belt.'
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