Looks like the pot calling the kettle black to me, Beamer.

Minor interest in Fable 2, but seeing as I skipped the first, even on the PC...don't care.

What, so even though joystiq picked it as Best of 2008 the fact that you don't have any real interest makes it dull?



See, two can do this. It's called o-p-i-n-i-o-n. And, when it comes to the PS3, you vehemently defend yours and allow no one else one. When it comes to the 360 only yours matters.
This is why people are murmuring "fanboy," even if you think it's wrong. And it may be. But when you throw your opinion on one console out yet fail to allow people their own on your favorite console, well, you smell like someone that doesn't see properly.

the wii won by a landslide worldwide

I just bought my 2nd Wii...

My ex GF wanted my first and I figured it wouldn't get any use so I sold it to her, and my current GF decided she wanted one, so poof, I've purchased 2 Wii's myself already.

I wasn't too excited about getting this one but after playing Super Mario Galaxy, a game I missed, I'm fucking sold on the Wii. That game is amazing. After the boss battle involving Bowser Junior I was blown away. If you can look past the kid friendly exterior to the game...it's brilliant.

It puts all the other crap games I'm playing into perspective, and it's amazing.

Metroid Prime got great reviews as well so that is another game I'm looking forward to going back and playing.

Expect fewer games for the PS3 this year.

http://ps3.ign.com/index/release.html

I count over 200 releases scheduled for 2009. I don't think PS3 owners are worried.

the wii won by a landslide worldwide (still shocks me but the facts are incontrovertible). BOTH MS and SONY are planning new consoles in 2 years. Both consoles will be streamlined to be "cheap" and will hope to blow the "old" Wii aside. You can count on it. The PS3 is on life-support though guys. Unit sales are making it less attractive for 3rd parties to develop for the PS3. Expect fewer games for the PS3 this year.

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Does none of it well? You are sadly misinformed.

Not for my uses. It's third-ran for gaming. Blu-Ray is overpriced and going to fade in the face of digital delivery. What else are we saying it does?

We're not talking about what's good for your uses. You stated the PS3 does nothing well which is absolute bullshit.

"Third-ran" for gaming? In sales perhaps, but not in quality of games. PS3 has just about all of the same AAA titles as the 360 plus some AAA exclusives of it's own. Now, you may not enjoy games like Uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet and Clank, etc., but you would be hard pressed to convince the gaming community that these titles are "third-ran" in quality.

The price of Blu-ray? Thanks to Amazon and the frequent buy-1-get-1-free type deals, my Blu-ray purchases are consistently below $20 per title which is exactly where DVD was in it's prime. If it wasn't too expensive for DVD, then it certainly isn't too expensive for Blu-ray.

Digital delivery? Well, PS3 does that too (in HD) but I, like many others, prefer and will be using physical media for a long time to come. So long as Blu-ray prices continue to drop, it will be around for quite some time.

What else are we saying it does?

Why don't you tell us all of the things that it does not do well? And keep in mind, your lack of interest in a particular feature or game does not count as "not doing something well".

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A year ago. Is the next words out of your mouth "fanboy"? Call me what you like. I don't argue opinions.

To be fair, arguing that PS3 exclusives are better or more enjoyable is an opinion. Many may share it, but it's impossible to quantitatively measure how "fun" something will be for the entire planet.

For this generation, the software library won out for me. I love the Wii, but there's zero software for it that interests me. I've stopped even paying attention any more, and just play Boom Blox at parties with friends, before someone busts out Rock Band or something similar.

PS3 has a grand total of one game that interests me that I really *want* to play, and that's God of War 3. It's not a console-selling game though.

Considering that I haven't even purchased a 1020 HDTV, blueray is wasted on me. Even when watching a 1020 signal on a 1020 set, I'm less than enthusiastic. Maybe when the price drops to about 600 bucks for a 40 inch screen I'll look into it, but right now dishing 1000+ dollars on a TV isn't worth it to me. I don't game, I don't watch movies, and I don't watch enough TV to make it a worthwhile investment.

Streaming netflix, however, is the shiat. I already had an xbox gold subscription, and a netflix subscription, and now when I'm bored I can hit a few buttons and be watching a movie in seconds. That's far more valuable to me than spending 30 bucks on a movie, but to each their own.

Here's the crux. A lot of people like ease of use/access over quality. I mean, Sony learned this lesson back with Beta format, remember? The issue was not that beta was inferior (in fact it survived in professional settings well into the late 90's), but that the licensing and ease of access, and price was not appealing. Plus porn didn't fully embrace it. The porn industry basically writes what technology will succeed and what won't.

As it is, I see two major errors in Sony, compounded by hubris on the part of their board of directors leading up to PS3's launch.

1. The cell architecture is simply too different from existing architecture to make cross-platform migrations, regardless of direction, straightforward. Sony was hoping to use scaled versions of it's cell architecture in everything from toasters to watches once it gained "market share" and people learned to program with it. It turns out that people don't want to suckle at the sole teat of Sony for it's processors, much like with Apple in the 80's and 90's (who has since, wisely, adopted intel hardware architecture). This error was perpetrated not by the Sony video game division, but by the rest of the company expecting to leverage the Playstation name to push a critical mass of consoles, hence programming demand, to make it's cell chip ubiquitous.

2. Bluray's first and primary mission was DRM enforcement, after the debacle with DVD's CSS encryption. I remember reading discussions years ago that Bluray wouldn't even broadcast in full HD format without on board encryption "black boxes" everywhere from the blu-ray drive up through the monitor the signal was displayed on. The extra definition was little more than a selling point. I read that in November that bluray actually lost a small fraction of marketshare back to DVD. For most people, especially for most middle aged or older people, they simply can not see the difference between high def and a good standard def TV. Bluray, while useful for more disc storage space on the PS3, doesn't have the appeal that DVD did, and the timing was off as well. Once again, it was Sony corp pushing new technology on playstation, with the intent of artificially creating critical mass for their format. Timing would have been much better if bluray had been released say 2 years earlier, and prices had started coming down some, and the market share was already starting to infiltrate. DVD was a big selling point on the PS2, because it was timed perfectly right as DVD was entering the public awareness.

This boils down to one simple thing. The rest of Sony saw the videogame division as a prybar into homes, to wrench open and dump new, proprietary technology into, and to hedge bets. Without the pressure to support the rest of the corporation, I think the PS3 would have been designed differently, and probably been more successful in the public eye. The whole "you're gonna be our biatch" thing leading up to the PS3's launch, the use of advanced rendering stations that were supposedly pumping out in-game footage, and the other PR stunts made Sony not look like revolutionaries, but aged rock stars drunk on their own ego, wheeled out on stage, off tune, screaming at the audience that it couldn't possibly be *their* fault that they suck.

Remember, "technically better" doesn't equate to success. Look at Beta. If I had to guess about "earth shattering changes" at Sony, it will be cutting the video game division free, still being Sony, but not being the delivery system to crack out on the Sony products for every other venture the company has. It'll probably also deal with strategic lifepath of the PS3, and as has been mentioned elsewhere, a cleaning out of the old, entrenched blood who saw the PS3 as the tip of the sword of all things Sony, ready to invade homes.

That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the older formats. Just remember (like I told my wife) once you go HD/BluRay you can never go back.

I like how in order to truly embrace/experience Hd you have to use blu-ray. Give me a break. BD is the most expensive way to watch HD. If the most expensive=best to you, then you're a fucking idiot. I don't need to drive a escalade Hummer H2 to get the full SUV experience, and I don't need Sony's Goddamn Blu-Ray to watch movies, sports, and weekly TV shows in HD.

It's a sales pitch! It's called advertising, they feed you a load of bullshit about how artifacting is a big problem, and how your movies look the best, and you happily give them all your money to feel special.

Blu-Ray is Hd for stupid people. Oh you want HD? Oh that will cost $400 to start, then you need some crazy sound system, 7.1 at least!, and you will need a new TV, I recommend this Sony 99" STFU-99URADUMBASS for $50,000. You don't want to expereince anything less that perfection right? Yeah you need all this expensive crap, otherwise you'll just be seeing what those fools spending almost nothing see. Those poor bastards....

If I were a mechanic, I would stand outside Bestbuy or the Sony store and offer my services to anyone with something blu-ray related in their hands. You could sell them ANYTHING. Yeah your cam crank benderover is broken, that will be $800. Or you could not fix it and then you have all kinds of tire rotation problems. You don't want your tires rotating do you?