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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 7, 2008, 10:48 |
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Sorry Frans, still dead here. Same symptoms, same error message under "details" tab on the Blackberry. Anything we can do say the word.... Well, I don't know what else I can do besides making sure the WML code validates.
I'd still like to hear whether anything changed for Jeraxle's iPod Touch, or Efflixi's HTC Mogul. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 7, 2008, 08:34 |
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Sorry Frans, still dead here. Same symptoms, same error message under "details" tab on the Blackberry. Anything we can do say the word....
Fang, any settings you might want to share?
Thanks.
This comment was edited on Nov 7, 2008, 08:44. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 20:23 |
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Well, like I mentioned before, it was working for me on my Blackberry at 9 AM. Which is before you made the change. But others were having trouble after that, so I don't know what was the cause/solution.
It still seems to be working fine for me on my Blackberry. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 14:22 |
Xymph |
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The only thing I can try is restrict the number of stories and see if the smaller WML file does load for those that currently have trouble. Okay, now there's only 10 stories and the WML file is about 10 KB. Does that help for anyone who previously was unable to load the site? |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 14:17 |
Xymph |
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Also getting the Internal server error from my Blackberry...
Additional info says "internal compiler error application/vnd.wap.wmic"
The site is served with the correct content type "text/vnd.wap.wml" so either that 'wmic' is a typo or it is indeed a Blackberry problem.
Looks like a Blackberry issue, yes?
Oops. Forgot to mention I'm using MS Pocket IE emulation mode, and WML and HTML Content Mode.
Hope it might help. 'fraid not, as my knowledge (along with the aforementioned testing capability) is really limited. The only thing I can try is restrict the number of stories and see if the smaller WML file does load for those that currently have trouble.
This comment was edited on Nov 6, 2008, 14:18. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 14:12 |
strich |
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| regardless of the limitations, thanks for doing it Frans! |
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| I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in duct tape. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 13:34 |
Starsky |
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Also getting the Internal server error from my Blackberry...
Additional info says "internal compiler error application/vnd.wap.wmic"
Looks like a Blackberry issue, yes?
Oops. Forgot to mention I'm using MS Pocket IE emulation mode, and WML and HTML Content Mode.
Hope it might help.
This comment was edited on Nov 6, 2008, 13:37. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 13:31 |
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Seems to me that if someone wanted to change someone's mind, you'd politic a few days earlier ...
Nah, Cutter just likes to argue.  |
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Have I lied to you? I mean, in this room? Trust me, leave that thing alone. - GLaDOS
Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? - Ripley
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 13:20 |
banddirector |
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No, I think we limited it to just a couple days.
And what was even weirder was the politic-ing more or less happened on the day *of* and the day after, but not much before.
Seems to me that if someone wanted to change someone's mind, you'd politic a few days earlier .....
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 13:04 |
Xymph |
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I take it we won't be able to post comments (or see them) from the m version? No, only the current day news of the frontpage has been converted into a WML version, not the rest of the site.
The whole idea here is to simply make it possible to check the latest news while on the road, rather than make your main browser completely obsolete. 
As for looks, I'm fine with how it looks, but if'n ya want to put it in blue or retro colors, you wouldn't get any arguments from me. Okay, as currently most formatting is stripped out to reduce page size (and to comply with the WML spec) and I think it's just as easy for everyone to keep it that way. Also, layout tweaks are hard to devise or test for me because of the aforementioned lack of testing devices. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 13:02 |
Xymph |
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Awsome. Can we just get a version of the site design for phones with smaller screens like the iPhone and the g1 (android)? Uhm, I don't know, as I don't have access to any of these devices and have no idea about their requirements and limitations. I also am not sure it's a good idea to create an array of different mobile sites for the wide variety of devices out there. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 12:49 |
Xymph |
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Going to either mobile site generates an HTML error and i can't view the site as of 11.06.2008 - 11:09:15. m.blues is just an alias for wap.bluesnews.com, so there's no point in trying both. 
The mobile site right now gets a clean pass from the WML validator, so I'm afraid I don't know what error you could still be getting.
Edit: the only possible cause I can think of now is that of page size, as the WML file is currently 20 KB and that may be too large for some devices (at least it is for the emulator I mentioned earlier). If that's the case I'll need to limit the number of stories on the WAP site, rather than include all of today's stories (which grows quite a bit during the day and especially with the evening update).
This comment was edited on Nov 6, 2008, 13:23. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 12:06 |
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Phone: HTC Mogul
OS: Windows Mobile 6.1
Browser: IE Mobile (not sure exactly what version)
Provider: Sprint
Going to either mobile site generates an HTML error and i can't view the site as of 11.06.2008 - 11:09:15.
This comment was edited on Nov 6, 2008, 12:09. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 11:46 |
sponge |
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Maybe, if you have more info on how it should look. Are there any pointers to formatting and naming conventions for such a format?
You can use standard XHTML if you'd like, however there's another standard HTML Mobile. It's pretty similar to what WML does, except it allows more freedom to design.
See http://m.cnn.com/ and http://foxnews.proteus.com/ for examples. You could literally take the current site, chop out the header, and the navbar on the left and that would be most of the work.
It's basically a step up between WML which is the most basic, and full out (x)HTML as BN uses now.
I could probably try and throw up a mockup sometime this weekend if it'd be any help.
This comment was edited on Nov 6, 2008, 11:47. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 11:40 |
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| Awsome. Can we just get a version of the site design for phones with smaller screens like the iPhone and the g1 (android)? |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 11:32 |
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More political bullshit here?
Ah good.
No, I think we limited it to just a couple days.  In 2012, we will have to schedule a one-hour window for all the political crap and let it fly. |
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Have I lied to you? I mean, in this room? Trust me, leave that thing alone. - GLaDOS
Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? - Ripley
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 11:16 |
Creston |
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*peeks in*
More political bullshit here?
Ah good. Yay Frans!
Creston |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 10:29 |
Atomic |
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On my blackberry, I get an internal server error when I try to go to either mobile site.
Seconded. |
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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing."
-George Bernard Shaw |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 10:25 |
strich |
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| woo! way to go Frans. thanks for doing this. I tend to get locked out of BN from work, so it's nice to be able to visit the site. I take it we won't be able to post comments (or see them) from the m version? As for looks, I'm fine with how it looks, but if'n ya want to put it in blue or retro colors, you wouldn't get any arguments from me. |
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| I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in duct tape. |
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Re: Out of the Blue |
Nov 6, 2008, 09:08 |
Fang |
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Its working now on my blackberry. It must have been an early hiccup in the server.
The formatting could use a little more thought though. |
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