I really hope Obama does a better job than Bush.

An actual bush could do better than Bush.

"For goodness sake it was written by a professional speech writer, probably white over weight, half cut on JD watching from behind the stage itching his nuts while staring at Obamas wifes legs."

Obama writes his own speeches, Hoop....so you're pretty well wrong on every single assumption there. The two books Obama has put out weren't written for him, he wrote them himself.

Obama is a gifted orator and an intelligent man which is a welcome change from the last 8 years.

Here's a Time article entitled "How Obama Writes His Speeches"

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837368,00.html

I really hope Obama does a better job than Bush.

We're all still friends!

And do you know what happens when logical, straight-forward politicians run? They don't get any votes. Ron Paul is clear evidence. You *cannot win* if you don't play the game.

Even though, generally seen, you are certainly correct with your statement, I still think Ron Paul would have won the presidential race against anyone, if the Republican party really supported him instead of McCain... but Ron Paul stated that he has his own goals (back tracking from Iraq, getting rid of the Federal Reserve Bank and so on), that he will not follow any lobby orders and that's what costed him the nomination.

Corporate America got rid of Ron Paul because business is still dictating everything in America and Dr Paul wanted to stop that... and that's also why Obama will not change anything because he cannot and even doesn't want to escape corporate America. Obama's presidential goals are still forced upon him, he has no real free will and power, even if he wants it.

On a sidenote: I'm sure the Republican party is banging their heads against every concrete wall they can find in the next few days because they pushed McCain and not Ron Paul several months ago.

This comment was edited on Nov 5, 2008, 09:31.

He is smoke and mirrors, as every politician is. When there are so many dumb fucks out there with the questionable ability to vote, you cannot win without politicking. That's just the unfortunate way it is.

But Obama is a very smart guy, whereas McCain isn't. He made so much very clear (as if his Harvard record wasn't enough) when he delivered his fantastic race speech. For the last eight years the country was run by a feces-throwing monkey. Obama actually is quite a change in that regard.

And do you know what happens when logical, straight-forward politicians run? They don't get any votes. Ron Paul is clear evidence. You *cannot win* if you don't play the game.

I think this election was more about voting against continuing the Bush administration, rather than voting for Obama. I doubt his honeymoon with the media will last very long.

He got it - now he needs to prove he can make it happen.

Some might argue that the hard part is over now, but I'd have to call it a warm-up round. The hard part is just beginning. He is about to take on the toughest job of his life, and it will be an uphill battle.

D-Rock

haha, I love it. "The crisis is over! The economy will fix itself! The dollar will not collapse! Everything will be good!" Sometimes people can be so naive. Incredible.

It works both ways, and for you to claim your "side" is correct is just as ludicrous. The economy is influenced by the 'natural' behaviors of an economy, as well as the choices made by the decision makers of this country. Anyone who claims it's one or the other is a fool.

There is an extremely high likelihood that things will balance out in the near future, but when it happens, where will the credit go? Will you truly be able to say the bailout plan made a difference? Or will the natural balancing effect of an economy be the key? I highly doubt it will be measurable by the time it happens, but if you think you can prove it, then you are wasting your time posting on Blue's, as you have the potential to be a highly successful person with your skill of measuring something that is, for the most part, immeasurable.

D-Rock

One thing he won't have to fix... the economy. It's already righting itself.

haha, I love it. "The crisis is over! The economy will fix itself! The dollar will not collapse! Everything will be good!"

Sometimes people can be so naive. Incredible. Just hope for the sake of America, that Obama's first action as the president will be to stop the ludicrous war in Iraq, which is devastating America's financial resources and destroying the dollar. The insane, useless spending needs to be stopped.

THIS will be his most important decision to take; all the promises he gave during his campaign are secondary.

He's never run a small business let alone a city or a state. Plus he was only in the Senate for a few months before deciding he could take on the job of Pres. Mind you that this was just months after he said he wasn't qualified to do the job.

oh please. thats the most uninformed crap about obama. youre probably one of those who shouted that obama is a terrorist at a mccain rally. obama knew he had to get into politics and indeed become president of the united states when he realized being a community organizer does not change society. read up on the man before you call him names.

Hell! I'm not even American. But I know the effect that the US's DISASTEROUS handling of your economy has had on the rest of the world. So much power in the hands of such irresponsible idiots and where has that landed the rest of the world? It's a shame that so much hinges on the greed of Wall Street ... I'd love it if we could just cut it loose without feeling the effects in the rest of the world.

Congrats to the Bluesnews forum posters who belong in the 51% of you out there in the big ol' U.S. of A.

The the ones who are in the 49%. Don't go starting another civil war just because an african-american was elected to office. I mean you all say Obama is just smoke-screen and mirrors, but lets face it was ANY american president in recent years anything else but?

God, please don't let anyone kill Obama... I'm not sure what would happen with Joe Biden as president...

It could be worse. It could be Sarah Palin ... "What do you mean we're not at war with Iran? We should be! Bomb them anyway! Now where's my moose gun!"

I loaded this page and for a moment thought you had all elected Kevin Costner as President with Dennis Hopper as his running mate and young wife at his side.
And Al Gore had been right all along the world was now 90 percent water
Seriously though from where Im standing Obama could end up being mentioned in the same sentence as Lincoln if things really do get changed/unified.
One thing that scares me though watching him deliver a beautiful first address, was how the masses hung on every lyrical piece of laced rhetoric as if he had been up all night writing & re-writing it as homework to the nation.The media excitedly quoting it almost as it leaves his mouth.
For goodness sake it was written by a professional speech writer, probably white over weight, half cut on JD watching from behind the stage itching his nuts while staring at Obamas wifes legs.


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No, Jack, Radical in the context of politics is defined as extremely liberal (read: socialist, anarchist, etc.), just as Reactionary is defined as extremely conservative.

Oh come on you know I didn't mean stop driving entirely. Fact is we *have* started driving less, and the slowing demand has directly caused a fall in oil prices.

And your argument doesn't take into account what I cited: Last month marked the worst sales in 20 years in the auto industry. If Americans are spending less money on cars you can be damn sure they'll be spending less on gas.

Consumer spending drives ALL markets, including oil. And did you notice that deflation is rearing its head? Commodities, INCLUDING OIL, are falling in price, as a result of global sagging demand, a demand driven by consumer spending. Seeing as how we are in or are on the verge of a huge recession, American spending and consequently demand are going to tank. Since America is the world's largest consumer of oil, if we aren't BUYING oil, the price is going to fall. That's exactly what is happening now.

Honestly Jack, #9 is one of the least-informed posts I've ever seen here. Middle East controlling oil prices? Do you think they've been having emergency OPEC meetings because they PLANNED oil to fall 50% from July? Do you think they cut production because they like $70 barrels?

You know why oil's cheap? I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the fact that this October was the worst month in 20 years for car sales in America. Oil's cheap because investors think Americans aren't going to have any *money* by the start of next year and won't be *driving*.

And you say my post was uninformed? Creston painted a much broader picture than I. But to think that the Middle-East and their control on production has nothing to do with the rise and fall of prices is absurd. Each of these things plays a part. Most of the reasons come back around to corruption/control and greed. And yes, the fact that car sales are grinding to a halt helps to bring those prices down also. That's only obvious. The same way people spending less of their disposable income effects the retail outlets. Notice some of them going out of business?

Funny how the prices fall and everyone buys a Hummer. Too bad the car makers won't give us anything but a hybrid that gets great mileage. Sooner or later we are going to have to put resources and the environment above materialism and greed. But that won't happen anytime soon...

edit: I also think it's kind of funny how I use a word (radical) which can mean several things since I didn't specify... yet some people take it to mean something specific. Strange?

This comment was edited on Nov 5, 2008, 02:42.

You know why oil's cheap? I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the fact that this October was the worst month in 20 years for car sales in America. Oil's cheap because investors think Americans aren't going to have any *money* by the start of next year and won't be *driving*.

The idea of the American not driving is absurd. The entire US economy would grind to dust if Americans didn't drive.

The reason oil is falling is Congress was trying to pass bills left and right that would prohibit futures trading in oil. That's when it went from 148 dollars to 100 dollars. Then Wall Street crashed, causing an actual halt on futures shorting for several days, and voila, oil plummeted.

Despite what the futures traders have been bleating for the past year, most of the past absurd oil prices can be laid directly at their feet. The head honcho of Chevron said before Congress that if it was a simple matter of price and demand, oil would be 50-55 dollars a barrel. So where was the other 100 bucks coming from?

Now, some of our gas prices were also inflated because we simply LACK the refinery capacity to produce the gas we require. Apparently the US hasn't built a new refinery in 20+ years. And since with today's environmental regulations, it would cost 1.5 to 2 billion dollars to build a new one, no oil company is interested in doing so.

Then the existing refineries actually reduced their processing capacity to keep the price high, and the end result was that the consumer at the pump was getting screwed from four different angles.

Anyways, I just hope that the falling gas prices do not automatically lead to the average retard deciding to buy a fucking Suburban instead of something that gives 30mpg.

But that's probably an idle hope.

Creston

While I think his message of "change" is just smoke in a bottle, here's hoping he'll at least do a better job than our current government. And it's a good and important step for the US to finally have a black president.

Now if he lowers my taxes like he promised, I might even like him!

Also, I'm glad as fuck it wasn't that cunt Clinton that got the Democratic nomation.

Creston

This comment was edited on Nov 5, 2008, 01:51.

Honestly Jack, #9 is one of the least-informed posts I've ever seen here. Middle East controlling oil prices? Do you think they've been having emergency OPEC meetings because they PLANNED oil to fall 50% from July? Do you think they cut production because they like $70 barrels?

You know why oil's cheap? I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the fact that this October was the worst month in 20 years for car sales in America. Oil's cheap because investors think Americans aren't going to have any *money* by the start of next year and won't be *driving*.

As for Obama being radical, what a laugh. He's two cents from moderate and two grand from radical. If he were radical he'd have an endorsement from Chomsky, not Warren Buffet.

[edit] And I can't believe he managed to win essentially all the battlegrounds. North Carolina going Democrat is insane, and thanks to Dole's fat Republican mouth Kay Hagan even picked up a Senate seat. Somebody in the senate is now named after a Diablo 2 item!

This comment was edited on Nov 5, 2008, 01:49.