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Out of the Blue [Nov 05, 2008, 01:00 am ET] - Share - Viewing Comments What? We know who is going to be the next president without recounts and court decisions? I guess that's democracy FTW. Presidential Links: Thanks Ant and Mike Martinez. Play: Dark Legion. Splitter. Thanks Jay is Games. Links: Struggling Americans Forced To Work Extra-Dimensional 4th Shift. Stories: Teenager's new name is fantastic. Thanks OhGizmo. Voting-line camaraderie reflects 'we' spirit, expert says. Science: US Military Pretty Much Commissions a Real-Life Gordon Freeman Power Suit. Chicken genome plucked bare by inbreeding. Scientists clone from frozen mice. Dream of ending the frozen mouse shortage comes true. Auction: Pooh bear sketch sold for £31,000. Oh bother. Images: Robots Turn on Humans, A Photo Essay by Robots for Robots. Media: Pocket Bike Jumps Over River. Follow-up: Bones confirm Steve Fossett death. View Threads Flat (Newest First) Flat (Oldest First) 101. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 5, 2008, 13:56 Warhawk   This was one of the few bonds or allocations that passed. So far we are passing the high speed rail ($9.95 bil), children's hospital ($980 mil), and veteran's bonds ($900 mil). Together, including interest, we will have to pay back $23.6 billion on these three bonds alone. Anyone who's driven between SF and LA in the last few years know we NEED to do something, and soon. A 350 mile long traffic jam is not an option. I have driven between the Sacramento area and LA more times than I care to count over the last 15 years and I-5 is always moving at full speed (unless there is an accident - a couple times over the years) until you are in the immediate vicinity of a large city. Hey, I hope this does well as I would also love to be able to have an alternative to flying down to LA or taking a car to Pittsburg and then taking BART to SF, but I really don't see the advantage here. It would take me about 30-45 minutes to get to the station from my house. I can get to Pittsburg in less than an hour. BART fares from Pittsburg to SF airport (about the longest stretch of BART): $16. Round trip. There is no way that prices will be low enough to make sense for shorter trips (SAC to SF) with existing cheap BART fares once you get close to SF. And for longert trips, say, Sac to San Diego, look at all the stops it makes. http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/ No way it is competitive with flying if you are in a hurry. The only thing it does is get you out of a car, but is probably going to be hideously expensive for a trip of equivalent time, especially if a family is going somewhere. For instance, booking an end-to-end trip on the Acela train on the East Coast (the closest thing we have to HSR in the US, apparently) would cost a minimum of $250 for a round trip tomorrow and takes at least 6.5 hours. For one person. Try a family - the costs would be prohibitive for most for what could instead be less than a day's drive. This comment was edited on Nov 5, 2008, 14:09.   Have I lied to you? I mean, in this room? Trust me, leave that thing alone. - GLaDOS Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? - Ripley       Date Subject Author   1. Nov 4, 23:01 Re: Out of the Blue Kosumo   2. Nov 4, 23:12  Re: Out of the Blue nin   3. Nov 4, 23:15   Re: Out of the Blue Bucky   4. Nov 4, 23:20    Re: Out of the Blue nin   5. Nov 4, 23:34     Re: Out of the Blue Talisorn   6. Nov 4, 23:36      Re: Out of the Blue nin   38. Nov 5, 07:55       Re: Out of the Blue D-Rock   39. Nov 5, 08:16        Re: Out of the Blue Bill Borre   40. Nov 5, 08:33         Re: Out of the Blue PHJF   41. Nov 5, 09:30          Re: Out of the Blue vacs   56. Nov 5, 10:57           Re: Out of the Blue CrimsonPaw   106. Nov 5, 14:19           Re: Out of the Blue Retired   7. Nov 4, 23:42      Re: Out of the Blue Warhawk   8. 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