WoW Paid Customization Coming

WorldOfWar.Net has a tidbit from BlizzCon, where Jay Allen Brack was asked about indications from World of Warcraft game files that paid character customization may be coming to Blizzard's MMORPG. After seeming to avoid the question at first, he eventually confirmed that paid-for character customization is indeed in the works, though no further details are provided.
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Oct 13, 2008, 21:16
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Oct 13, 2008, 21:16
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Whine more people.

Oh, they will.
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Re: What's the monthly subscription for?!
Oct 13, 2008, 20:02
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Re: What's the monthly subscription for?! Oct 13, 2008, 20:02
Oct 13, 2008, 20:02
 
This reeks of nothing more than a money making scheme. Lets do some math.

WoW has 10 million subscribers. At $14/month that's 140 million a month, or 1.7 billion per year. Lets throw out a ridiculous number and say they pay 250 employees $100k/year to work on WoW. That's a $25 million annual payroll. All those GMs must cost a lot. Lets overpay them and give them $5 million a month. We'll be kind and throw in another 5 million for health coverage and operating expenses. The servers require a lot of bandwidth and certainly maintenance. 5 million per month should be more than enough. That's $70 million a year.

$1.7 Billion / year coming in
-$25 million / year in payroll and services
-$5 million / year for GMs
-$5 million / year for perks
-70 million / year for servers and bandwidth

That still leaves $1.6 billion / year. Screw you Blizzard/EA. Someone is cashing in.

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Re: Really?
Oct 13, 2008, 19:47
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Re: Really? Oct 13, 2008, 19:47
Oct 13, 2008, 19:47
 
Hey Teddy, tell everyone where the bad man touched you, m'kay? Now go cuddle up with your WoW box under your hypo-allergenic pillow, you baby-peckered, hairless fanboi.

The point is that so many of the blinded, bleeding bung-hole fanbois are missing is that these optional services should be part of the subscription plan. But nipple-headed fanbois are more than happy to pay extra for something they should already be able to freely use.

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Oct 13, 2008, 19:45
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Oct 13, 2008, 19:45
 
Actually City of Heroes/Villians allow you to change everything except your class and even to a degree your body's shape.

Will this have any gameplay impact on the game? No.
Are you forced to do it? No.

As for what they do offer NOW, some people do enjoy moving to less populated servers, or want to go from a pve to pvp server.

Again all they are offering is services that you CAN use if you want to, but in no way shape or form affects the game.

Whine more people.

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Oct 13, 2008, 19:17
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Oct 13, 2008, 19:17
 
In the fantasy games, such as World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings or Age of Conan I suspect they would use 'magic' as used by wizards, magic-users, necromancers, shamans, Stygian priests, etc.
And you would be right, but normally these effects are transient. And if they weren't they should be at least handled by some kind of in game mechanism. With EQ2 and VG you simply could just "recreate" your character each time you entered the game on a whim with no explanation or continuity .... which in my opinion just didn't seem right. Even an old school pen and paper RPG game would not let you do that without outlaying vast amounts of in game cash ... GM permitting of course (and I wouldn't permit it :p)


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Oct 13, 2008, 18:20
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Oct 13, 2008, 18:20
 
EQ2 and Vanguard are the only ones, and frankly the amount of change they allowed characters I thought was stupid; it never made any sense. How on earth can you change your skin tone, height, entire facial structure and so on at a whim?

Although I don't actually play any of these new-fangled MMOG's, my guess would be that in something like Second Life, EVE or Anarchy online, they would use 'science' performed by a plastic surgeon, bio-mechanic, genetic specialist, etc.

In the fantasy games, such as World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings or Age of Conan I suspect they would use 'magic' as used by wizards, magic-users, necromancers, shamans, Stygian priests, etc.

But I could be wrong. Perhaps the idea of changing your looks for cash is a really far fetched idea.

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Obviously
Oct 13, 2008, 18:08
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Oct 13, 2008, 18:08
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It will be figure changes... Bigger Boobies!

Good change

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Re: Really?
Oct 13, 2008, 17:04
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Re: Really? Oct 13, 2008, 17:04
Oct 13, 2008, 17:04
 
Well now. This sealed the deal for me. I was waffling about cancelling my pre-order for WotLK, but this money milking scheme has made the decision for me. Act/Bliz the next EA. There seems to be execs there that need to be donkey-punched in the face until they're in a coma.

Rofl. Whine a little more, you belligerent, angst filled moron. They're offering a new service, possibly charging for it and rather than realizing that if you just ignore it, then NOTHING CHANGES FOR YOU. The game is exactly the same. Yes, how dare they offer something that you don't have to pay for that has nothing more than a superficial effect on the game. As a matter of fact, how dare they add bear mounts to an instance that requires that you spend a lot of time in game raiding and learning how to play to acquire. Damn money grubbing bastards... all they want is for you to play more and keep spending your money. They should have just given those mounts away for free!

All I can say now is I'm glad I won't be seeing you in game (if you're not flat out lying as I suspect you are about canceling). One less whiny tool to deal with, only a few million more to go.

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Oct 13, 2008, 15:51
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Oct 13, 2008, 15:51
 
I would like to thank everyone who cries in the Blizzard threads, as you've provided me with hours of entertainment.
I would like to thank you for crying about people crying in Blizzard threads, as you've provided me with much entertainment.
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Oct 13, 2008, 15:43
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Oct 13, 2008, 15:43
 
EQ2 allows you to change your appearance at any time (not race/gender..class doesn't count)
EQ2 and Vanguard are the only ones, and frankly the amount of change they allowed characters I thought was stupid; it never made any sense. How on earth can you change your skin tone, height, entire facial structure and so on at a whim?

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Better Graphics
Oct 13, 2008, 14:57
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Better Graphics Oct 13, 2008, 14:57
Oct 13, 2008, 14:57
 
I pay for some higher textures, better models and bump mapping.


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Re: What's the monthly subscription for?
Oct 13, 2008, 14:08
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Re: What's the monthly subscription for? Oct 13, 2008, 14:08
Oct 13, 2008, 14:08
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I would like to thank everyone who cries in the Blizzard threads, as you've provided me with hours of entertainment.
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Re: What's the monthly subscription for?!
Oct 13, 2008, 13:51
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Re: What's the monthly subscription for?! Oct 13, 2008, 13:51
Oct 13, 2008, 13:51
 
"People pay for server transfers and name changes ... but do you think those should be for free too?"

Actually yes, I do. All that should be part of the monthly fee. Changing and moving that data around is trivial and costs nothing to the company. The fact that they charge so much for these trivial things is proof that greed and stupidity go hand-in-hand. As long as people are dumb enough to pay extra for it, the greedy company will charge for it. The first good MMO that has all these services included in the monthly fee will be celebrated.

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Re: Really?
Oct 13, 2008, 13:48
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Re: Really? Oct 13, 2008, 13:48
Oct 13, 2008, 13:48
 
Well now. This sealed the deal for me. I was waffling about cancelling my pre-order for WotLK, but this money milking scheme has made the decision for me. Act/Bliz the next EA. There seems to be execs there that need to be donkey-punched in the face until they're in a coma.

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Oct 13, 2008, 07:46
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Oct 13, 2008, 07:46
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What MMOs allow you to change your class/race/gender atall?

Thank you for proving my point. The fact that Blizz is offering this at all is surprising, and since it's something you should you have made up you mind on when you rolled (like which server you want to play on), I'm not surprised that if/when they do offer it, they want to charge, to discourage everyone from doing it...


Eventually there will end up more than one subscription model for these games. You'll get services like "basic" and "premium", and the premium model will cost a small fortune to maintain.

I'm sure the Hellgate folks thought that, and look at them now...
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Oct 13, 2008, 05:28
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Oct 13, 2008, 05:28
 
Interesting to notice the fact that most mmo gameplay changing decisions usualy gets like 5 pages of 'yayy' , 'devs rule' 'awesome'.
And somewhere down page 6 you find the first post from someone who has actually bothered to read the actual change list.

My point is that it seems that there is only room for the people who normaly populate the first 4 pages are usualy the only ones who are obsessive enough to bother going to these announcement events, and of course starts cheering when the devs state they are going to commence operation 'eat our shit'. Doesnt help much either when the devs only bother checking the first 3 pages on their forums either.


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Oct 13, 2008, 05:21
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Oct 13, 2008, 05:21
 
Eventually there will end up more than one subscription model for these games. You'll get services like "basic" and "premium", and the premium model will cost a small fortune to maintain.
Sort of. I think the evolution of the MMO business model will eventually lead to a nominal subscription, further support through ad revenue, and then premium services (either higher monthly sub or micro-transactions)

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Oct 13, 2008, 05:17
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Oct 13, 2008, 05:17
 
You're assuming that the people willing to spend more money aren't doing this as well?

What's the difference between having more disposable cash versus having more free time? What's the difference between paying more money for superficial customization versus paying more money for multiple accounts, or a better computer, faster internet connection, farmed gold, or a myraid of other advantages that some players might have over others.

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with this decision...but I also don't think it's any more unfair or skewed than pretty much every reward system in any multiplayer game.
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Re: Really?
Oct 13, 2008, 00:40
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Re: Really? Oct 13, 2008, 00:40
Oct 13, 2008, 00:40
 
Prez

Anything associated with WoW will sell. The brand is a license to print money. I am glad I never got the bug myself.


I had the bug but when I installed Common Sense 2.0 the bug was removed.

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Oct 13, 2008, 00:30
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Oct 13, 2008, 00:30
 
What MMOs allow you to change your class/race/gender/face for free?

What MMOs allow you to change your class/race/gender atall?

I had a level 20ish toon that I rerolled in EQ ages ago because even though I liked the class, I didn't like the race I'd chosen. Seems like these days though anything you want can just be purchased if you're willing to cough up the money.

Eventually there will end up more than one subscription model for these games. You'll get services like "basic" and "premium", and the premium model will cost a small fortune to maintain.

As I said in a previous post, RIP Blizzard.

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