Gamer's Bill of Rights

As mentioned above, Edge Online has a story on a new "Gamer's Bill of Rights" proposed by Stardock and Gas Powered Games. Hear hear! And here goes:
We the Gamers of the world, in order to ensure a more enjoyable experience, establish equality between players and publishers, and promote the general welfare of our industry hereby call for the following:

  1. Gamers shall have the right to return games that don't work with their computers for a full refund.
  2. Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state.
  3. Gamers shall have the right to expect meaningful updates after a game's release.
  4. Gamers shall have the right to demand that download managers and updaters not force themselves to run or be forced to load in order to play a game.
  5. Gamers shall have the right to expect that the minimum requirements for a game will mean that the game will adequately play on that computer.
  6. Gamers shall have the right to expect that games won't install hidden drivers or other potentially harmful software without their express consent.
  7. Gamers shall have the right to re-download the latest versions of the games they own at any time.
  8. Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers.
  9. Gamers shall have the right to demand that a single-player game not force them to be connected to the Internet every time they wish to play.
  10. Gamers shall have the right that games which are installed to the hard drive shall not require a CD/DVD to remain in the drive to play.
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1. Gamers shall have the right to return games that don't work with their computers for a full refund.

-Because of piracy, no way to implement this, it would be such a mistake to allow this on any level.

Stupidity. Piracy has nothing to do with it. Getting games off the internet with cracks for any existing copy protection is so damn easy it's not funny. In fact, it's generally much easier than actually going and purchasing a game. Pirating a game by buying it and then returning it is significantly more difficult than downloading it is. Allowing returns at this point in time should absolutely be allowed.

2. Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state.

-Never happen. Never has happened, never will happen. Even games of the first couple generations had issues.

And it's exactly this attitude that is the reason it happens. People like you accept it as reality, when, in point of fact, it's not. Game companies could choose to take the extra time to make sure a game is polished before it's released. Most don't. But that's not because they can't, it's because they know people will accept the game even if it's not completely finished. If we change our level of acceptance, they'd be forced to change.

3. Gamers shall have the right to expect meaningful updates after a game's release.

-a right? pffft. NES games never had updates.

I'd probably agree here, there are some games where a "meaningful update" isn't warranted.

4. Gamers shall have the right to demand that download managers and updaters not force themselves to run or be forced to load in order to play a game.

-you don't own the game, you have a license to use it.

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether I own it or I license it, I still have the ability to demand certain things from games that I buy. This one is a great example. There is no reason I should be forced to run third-party software in order to play a game.

5. Gamers shall have the right to expect that the minimum requirements for a game will mean that the game will adequately play on that computer.

-you have to be retarded to think this.

Yes, again, because that's the way the industry has been doing it. Minimum means "well, you might get 10 fps if you're staring directly at a wall". There's no reason they can't list minimum specs that would allow for reasonable gameplay. And you'd have to be retarded to think they can't.

6. Gamers shall have the right to expect that games won't install hidden drivers or other potentially harmful software without their express consent.

-read the EULA, if you don't read it, then you don't know that you already agreed to this.

Hence the phrasing "express consent". Requiring the end-user read through an entire EULA in order to discover a game is installing hidden drivers/etc shouldn't be necessary. If your game is going to install them, you should make a point of highlighting that before the game is installed.

7. Gamers shall have the right to re-download the latest versions of the games they own at any time.

-??? ummmm.....what?

Others have already pointed out the limitations that EA imposes on this front.

8. Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers.

-You aren't. Anyone that feels this needs to chill.

It's not a case of "chilling", when you are including stuff like Starforce in a game, you are treating your customer base as potential criminals. Sure, most companies stopped using Starforce, but that was because of the public outcry.

9. Gamers shall have the right to demand that a single-player game not force them to be connected to the Internet every time they wish to play.

-You don't have to.

You don't have to right now, but you did in the past, and it wouldn't be surprising to see companies try it again in the future.

10. Gamers shall have the right that games which are installed to the hard drive shall not require a CD/DVD to remain in the drive to play.

-Not really an issue. Although annoying, big deal.

Maybe it's not an issue to you, but it's an issue to some. Especially now that laptops are becoming the gaming platform of choice for more people.

Whew. made it. Just sounds like a bunch of complaining to me. You have the FREEDOM to not play any game. Use your wallet and that FREEDOM to show developers you mean business. Publishing a list like this won't get that done.

By publishing a list of "rights", people can communicate to publishers what their standards are for purchasing games. Seems like a reasonable way of going about it to me.

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