Gamer's Bill of Rights

As mentioned above, Edge Online has a story on a new "Gamer's Bill of Rights" proposed by Stardock and Gas Powered Games. Hear hear! And here goes:
We the Gamers of the world, in order to ensure a more enjoyable experience, establish equality between players and publishers, and promote the general welfare of our industry hereby call for the following:

  1. Gamers shall have the right to return games that don't work with their computers for a full refund.
  2. Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state.
  3. Gamers shall have the right to expect meaningful updates after a game's release.
  4. Gamers shall have the right to demand that download managers and updaters not force themselves to run or be forced to load in order to play a game.
  5. Gamers shall have the right to expect that the minimum requirements for a game will mean that the game will adequately play on that computer.
  6. Gamers shall have the right to expect that games won't install hidden drivers or other potentially harmful software without their express consent.
  7. Gamers shall have the right to re-download the latest versions of the games they own at any time.
  8. Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers.
  9. Gamers shall have the right to demand that a single-player game not force them to be connected to the Internet every time they wish to play.
  10. Gamers shall have the right that games which are installed to the hard drive shall not require a CD/DVD to remain in the drive to play.
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A different perspective...

No subject Aug 29, 10:56 xXBatmanXx


Let's put some common sense and reality into this:

1. Gamers shall have the right to return games that don't work with their computers for a full refund.

-Because of piracy, no way to implement this, it would be such a mistake to allow this on any level.

*Yeap, have to agree with you on this one.


2. Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state.

-Never happen. Never has happened, never will happen. Even games of the first couple generations had issues.

*What are you talking about? It's only because developers are up against artificial deadlines that we get games released before they are ready. Crysis was a fucking joke. It took me a week to play through to the last level, and then month of reinstalling and playing again just to get through the aircraft carrier level because every time I started the level I would fall through the geometry. I won't be buying Crysis Warhead because of this. It was months before they even acknowledged there was a problem. On the same note, EA released BF2 and BF 2142 in generally good condition, but refused to integrate widescreen support because it would give some players an advantage. Fuck you EA. They have the ability to release polished games, some put their shareholders before their customers.


3. Gamers shall have the right to expect meaningful updates after a game's release.

-a right? pffft. NES games never had updates.

*Hrmmm, if we are talking about MMO's then yes, I can see where updates would be necessary. But a game that is released doesn't need any updates if it is released bug-free. Additional content shouldn't be expected for all games.


4. Gamers shall have the right to demand that download managers and updaters not force themselves to run or be forced to load in order to play a game.

-you don't own the game, you have a license to use it.

*Having a license to play the game doesn't mean that a download manager or updater has to be installed. The game itself is all that should be installed. Anything else including should have an option for opting out without hindering gameplay.


5. Gamers shall have the right to expect that the minimum requirements for a game will mean that the game will adequately play on that computer.

-you have to be retarded to think this.

*Again, this goes back to developers polishing the game. They can scale the models and textures so that they play on a wide range of machines. They have the ability to test the games out before they release them. It's up to the developer to list accurate requirements. Retardation has nothing to do with it...


6. Gamers shall have the right to expect that games won't install hidden drivers or other potentially harmful software without their express consent.

-read the EULA, if you don't read it, then you don't know that you already agreed to this.

*How can you read the EULA before buying the game? What about when EULA's break the law like Sony's rootkit fiasco? What if you read the EULA and decide you don't want the game because of its wording...you are stuck with the game because the retailer won't take the game back.


7. Gamers shall have the right to re-download the latest versions of the games they own at any time.

-??? ummmm.....what?

*Gamers already have this right...I have all my CD keys going back a decade. Some of the discs are unusable but if I get the urge to play any of those games again I can do so guilt-free because I hold a valid license. As far as online download services like Steam, I know that you can download whatever you own from at least Steam. I have no experience with any of the others, but this should be a no-brainer. If you buy it from an online service, you should be able to download it or make backups.


8. Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers.

-You aren't. Anyone that feels this needs to chill.

*Yes we are. If we weren't lumped into the criminal category then we would be able to return games at retail.

9. Gamers shall have the right to demand that a single-player game not force them to be connected to the Internet every time they wish to play.

-You don't have to.

*This has been proposed. Once installed it should be able to play. Also, you should be able to install it as many times as you want. Limiting the number of installations is plain stupid and frustrating.


10. Gamers shall have the right that games which are installed to the hard drive shall not require a CD/DVD to remain in the drive to play.

-Not really an issue. Although annoying, big deal.

*Huge issue for me. I hate having to scrounge around for my discs.

-Whew. made it. Just sounds like a bunch of complaining to me. You have the FREEDOM to not play any game. Use your wallet and that FREEDOM to show developers you mean business. Publishing a list like this won't get that done.

-Move along.

I agree, vote with your wallet.

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