Mass Effect Patch & DLC

This page offers a new version 1.01 patch for the PC edition of Mass Effect, and the Mass Effect Community Website announces the release the PC edition of the Burn Down the Sky downloadable content. There is a process for acquiring the DLC that involves generating a new CD key. The downloads are also available The Patches Scrolls.
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Wow, talk about unbalanced. The game's ridiculously easy to begin with, I can't imagine what it would be like with maxed out stats and loot.

Everyone who says Mass Effect is easy alters their tune when they face a Krogan on Insanity

Picture something as unstoppable as Grond, from LotR : Return of the King. But then with a big fucking assault rifle. And biotics. And invulnerability.

Creston

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Aug 1, 2008, 10:03
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Aug 1, 2008, 10:03
 
Nuclear Watchdog

And just so Agent_thickskull doesn't think I'm singling him out and picking on him directly - you're making the same bogus argument he is.

But why should I be treated like a pirate from EA and all this DRM shit?

Uh...because you are one? Is that a valid reason?

I bought Mass Effect - is THAT a valid reason for ME to be treated like a pirate? What about the rest of us who BOUGHT Mass Effect? Is treating that one pirate like a pirate (even though he most likely downloaded a pirated copy and never had to be bothered with DRM at all...) a valid reason to treat 10 legitimate customers like pirates?

I wouldn't be upset at an individual pirate for creating DRM - be upset at the pointless route EA has taken to try to prevent piracy.

This is why I tried to make the connection to airport security. Neither do any good at stopping what they're intended to stop. Thus, the hoops a legit person has to go through are all the more frustrating and insulting. I have to have DVD read errors and access problems caused by bad sectors INTENTIONALLY written to the disc in the name of copy protection while copying by other people continues to take place?
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Aug 1, 2008, 09:45
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Aug 1, 2008, 09:45
 
I get that you want to twist facts to make yourself look like you are right and heroic for sticking up for somebody

Which facts did I twist? Do tell. Maybe I look right because I am. And maybe you're trying to save face for calling me and the pirate stupid when we're right about the matter. Not agreeing with someone who is right (indeed, calling THEM stupid) makes you seem pretty dense.

No stealing, no reason to put up safeguards. Comprehend?

Are you trying to suggest that if you could only convince the readers of an internet forum not to download warez, suddenly we'll find ourselves in a perfect world with no stealing and there wouldn't be copy protection? Wow. And you say I'M the one having trouble telling the real world from the make believe world. Ok then, please go forth and spread your word. I can't stand DRM so I wish you luck on your quest. Rid the world of DRM through the power of prayer. Blessings and peace be upon you.

People who feel that the world owes them free stuff are the reason the rest of us have to deal with shit like DRM.
Oh, so you don't like DRM then? I can't tell though if that means you pirate games or don't pirate games because we've been suggesting this whole time that people who put up with DRM are the ones that buy the games that have DRM on them, not actually the pirates. You see, one pirate removes the DRM and uploads said DRM-free version to the internet where all the other pirates download it.

I buy my games. That means I have to put up with activation, product keys, disc checks, safedisc, and starforce. I think we're actually agreeing (none of us like DRM). You just don't like the reality of the situation. People steal so DRM was created. DRM messes with legit customers and yet people continue to steal. DRM gets more intrusive and yet people continue to steal. I don't like where this is going either but I didn't create this world, I just live in it.

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Jul 30, 2008, 12:01
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Wallace321 - Is this the "Stupid people stick together" thread or what? I get that you want to twist facts to make yourself look like you are right and heroic for sticking up for somebody. Kudos to you. I would paint your sky a different color so that you can someday tell which is the real world, and which is your make believe one.

Also, there is not much left to say on the subject. He steals. People who feel that the world owes them free stuff are the reason the rest of us have to deal with shit like DRM. Therefore and thusly, he's a fucking douche bag. It sounds simple, because it is. No stealing, no reason to put up safeguards. Comprehend?

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Jul 30, 2008, 10:27
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Jul 30, 2008, 10:27
 
inblack -- no offense at all, but the topics you bring up have been beaten to death in bluesnews threads many times over!

carry on....

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Jul 30, 2008, 09:29
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Jul 30, 2008, 09:29
 
There is one other issue with piracy that no one has brought up.

Is piracy stealing? I mean, legaly speaking of course.

Is copying software, stealing? I mean its not like you are breaking into someone's house and taking their TV is it?

There are a lot of legal issues concerning piracy and Im pretty sure you cannot be convicted of piracy UNLESS you are re-selling said software in any court of law.

That issue aside, I for one would presonally be the HAPPIEST GAMER on the planet if they found a way to end piracy for all time, and for one simple reason.

So publishers cannnot blame piracy when their game bombs and sells terribly for being a piece of shit that it really is.

I have a nifty blue line!
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Jul 30, 2008, 08:01
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Jul 30, 2008, 08:01
 
cannot agree more with skyguy. An average game that could have been great if it werent for several super glaring game design issues. I pre-bought at full price and regretted it.

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Jul 30, 2008, 03:48
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Jul 30, 2008, 03:48
 
Agent_X7

trust me I read the entire thread - HE was making a broad generalization, YOU attacked him directly. He had a point, and again you totally avoid saying anything intelligent about the subject and instead attacked someone. well done

I also understood what you quoted. Problem is, you took it out of context and I don't have to be held to that. so here is his point, for a 3rd time -

EA TREATS YOU LIKE A PIRATE IF YOU BUY THE GAME BUT NOT IF YOU PIRATE IT. SO WHY PAY TO BE TREATED LIKE A PIRATE?

And that's a valid argument. The people who download the game illegally don't have to put up with product activation or Safedisc or starforce or anything like that. The people who buy the game are the ones who get treated like pirates, who have to deal with DRM issues that prevent a game from working.

That's the flaw in his logic of course. He claims to download to make sure the game runs on his system, (maybe he just means system requirements but...) of course if the problems are DRM related, they won't be present in the downloaded version. Mass Effect's activation cause any problem now, especially since the disc isn't needed after install, but with activation the problem comes from A) busy activation servers ala Bioshock's launch, B) installing the game a 3rd or 4th time 2 years from now. But civilized people can discuss these things without calling each other 'stupid' or 'dipshit' - I simply called you on it after already demonstrating your total inability to actually discuss the issue or even bring up a single intelligent point.

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Jul 29, 2008, 23:53
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But why should I be treated like a pirate from EA and all this DRM shit?
Uh...because you are one? Is that a valid reason?

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Jul 29, 2008, 22:17
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Jul 29, 2008, 22:17
 
Ah, I didn't know that... I just started up with a female character to get different voices.

And for the lesbian sex.

C'mon...admit it.

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Jul 29, 2008, 21:41
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Jul 29, 2008, 21:41
 
I won't call you stupid, I'll just question your reading comprehension. If you read what I quoted, what I said makes sense. You can't be a criminal and then complain about being treated like one.

Also, he attacked anybody who brought up piracy, so try reading the WHOLE thread first so you don't come in to the middle of something you don't quite grasp and start shooting off your mouth and looking like an asshole.

Asshole.

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Jul 29, 2008, 20:44
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In Mass Effect you can restart from the start with your character, keeping all your stats, cash and equipment, even the equipment you had on your squad.

Wow, talk about unbalanced. The game's ridiculously easy to begin with, I can't imagine what it would be like with maxed out stats and loot.

Do something about that too, hopefully something that doesn't involve driving over 10 mountain ranges to get where you need to go.

Those big open landscapes reminded me of Tribes. And really made me long for jetpacks.


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Jul 29, 2008, 20:40
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In Mass Effect you can restart from the start with your character, keeping all your stats, cash and equipment, even the equipment you had on your squad.
Ah, I didn't know that... I just started up with a female character to get different voices.

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Jul 29, 2008, 20:20
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Jul 29, 2008, 20:20
 
Mass Effect was worth my $40. Not great, but good.

But holy jesus, Derek French, if you're still reading... the same maps over and over and over *really* detract from the immersion. It doesn't matter how you re-arrange the crates on the grid, you've gotta have more variation in the map layouts.

Also, driving gets boring. Do something about that too, hopefully something that doesn't involve driving over 10 mountain ranges to get where you need to go.


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Jul 29, 2008, 20:11
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I also don't like the fact that when you complete the game you can't keep playing. It was brilliant in Oblivion that it didn't limit you after doing the main quest.

In Mass Effect you can restart from the start with your character, keeping all your stats, cash and equipment, even the equipment you had on your squad.

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Jul 29, 2008, 19:58
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I resent DRM as much as I resent airport security. Hey, I didn't do anything. Why do I have to go through this crap?
The difference is that airport security is designed to save lives - DRM just fucks you over on games you've paid good money for.

Activation like Mass Effect may be the best DRM ever. I gurantee you can install it once, just don't fuck that up. If only then the publisher would remove the activation requirement in 12 months. what self respecting pirate would brag about his illegal copy of quake 2? New things are the best deterrent to piracy
But it still impedes upon legitimate users and pirates can simply download a crack - it pisses off genuine users. I'm all for DRM that fucks over pirates and isn't noticeable to genuine users, that's brilliant... unfortunately we're not there yet. The Gears Of War DRM is some of the worst yet.

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Jul 29, 2008, 19:48
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Jul 29, 2008, 19:48
 
So you don't like the DRM?, Don't buy the game.
You don't have the right to pirate it, and your actions (well the actions of ALL the pirates) are only encouraging tighter measures.

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Jul 29, 2008, 19:06
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Jul 29, 2008, 19:06
 
Because you FUCKING ARE A PIRATE, DIPSHIT! Admit to being a criminal, and then complain about being treated like one.

I'm not going to call you stupid but you're BOTH over simplifying this concept but I want YOU to especially think about this since because you seem so passionate about your version of reality and your point of view that you resorted to a personal attack against this guy and called him stupid and a criminal without adding anything. Now realize this:

1: the game you bought has DRM on it.
2: A pirated version downloaded from the internet doesn't have DRM on it.

Now, WHO has to put up with DRM? Who exactly is being treated like a pirate/criminal? The person who downloads software over the internet without paying for it or the customer who bought their software? (Hint: which copy of the software will have DRM on it?)

DRM that works isn't bad. but it doesn't always work. Activation like Mass Effect may be the best DRM ever. I gurantee you can install it once, just don't fuck that up. If only then the publisher would remove the activation requirement in 12 months. what self respecting pirate would brag about his illegal copy of quake 2? New things are the best deterrent to piracy

PS: Did you know certain DRM schemes don't like it when you have a SATA optical drive and an IDE optical drive in the same system? No? That apparently is my problem with Gears of War. Ejecting the disc and putting it back in sometimes helps. DRM causes problems.

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I resent DRM as much as I resent airport security. Hey, I didn't do anything. Why do I have to go through this crap? It costs SO much money and it gets very very VERY little actually accomplished. At least airport security is VISIBLE and is something of a deterent... to MORONS and PSYCHOS, granted but there's certainly no shortage of those. But in reality we know it won't stop anybody who is A) intelligent or B) serious about it. It has to be tough enough to actually deter the bottom 5% and not be simple enough that those same 5% can just get right past it.

Where it differs from DRM is that DRM is hidden and thus it isn't really a deterrent because you may not know its even there. Imagine a mine field without a sign warning you about mines. Its purpose would be to kill people, not to block a way. If I knew of a way to get to my flight without having to wait in that useless line, believe me I totally would. And I would still fly knowing that other people know about it too because you can't stop the serious people anyway. People pushing DRM just don't care about the collateral damage it causes to stop the bottom 5%.

Having said that, 1 time activation, with a 3-5 times install limit that is removed after 6-12 months (though I wish the activation were removed, not just the limit. so I can install after that activation server is gone), and no disc required in the drive is probably the best thing to happen with DRM EVER. It will NEVER get any better than that. I can live with that especially if I can still download a pirated copy for when the activation server goes offline or if I'm ever forced to call someone to re-activate.

This coming from someone who couldn't get Gears of War to launch last weekend for some unknown reason (though it was definately DRM related because the disc was in the drive and it asked me to insert the disc) I plan on downloading a copy ASAP that works 100% of the time I double click on the icon without having to reboot or put the disc in another drive.

How embarassing is it to ask my pirate friend, "do you have a cracked copy of Gears of War? my retail copy doesn't work because of DRM" (I hope someone important reads that part because it should be embarassing for them too.)

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Jul 29, 2008, 18:14
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When is Ubi going to release their crack patch for this?





(yeah, I know EA is distributing)

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