On the Gothic IV Name Change

The Arcania: A Gothic Tale First on GameSpot is a preview of the game formerly known as Gothic IV that got mentioned last night, but it seems appropriate to focus on the part that explains the name change for the North American edition of the RPG series:
The Gothic franchise has forever been defined by free-roaming open-world gameplay, sweeping story and settings, and bugs. Lots of bugs. Publisher DreamCatcher freely admits that Gothic 3 was a great game in theory but an unplayable mess in execution. So former developer Piranha Bytes is gone, replaced by Spellbound Entertainment in the hope that fans of the epic role-playing game genre will eventually see Gothic in the same bright light as Oblivion. Spellbound's next project is Arcania: A Gothic Tale.

The name change serves two purposes. First, it hints at a world rich in magic and fantasy. Second, and completely from a marketing perspective, it helps give the Gothic franchise a fresh start in North America, where it has failed to gain significant popularity. And gaining popularity in the good old US-of-A is goal one for DreamCatcher. The team invested months of research into the differences between European and American gaming preferences, so much so that there will be two different color palettes for Arcania: North American (bright and beautiful) and European (muted and gritty). Truth be told, we didn't notice much of a difference when DreamCatcher stopped by our office to show off a very early build of Arcania, but you have to admire the attention to detail.
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Wonder if people actually believe this?
May 20, 2008, 09:23
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May 20, 2008, 09:23
 
They are trying to assert PB is no longer on the project due to supposed bugs and Spellbound was chosen to elevate Gothic beyond the supposed buggy state. When in fact, the game was just released in Beta state, so NO SHIT it had bugs, Du'h. Secondly PB refused to continue to patch the game without payment, i.e. they couldn't continue to work for FUCKING FREE, as the piece of shit publisher insisted.
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What worries me....
May 20, 2008, 09:27
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What worries me.... May 20, 2008, 09:27
May 20, 2008, 09:27
 
...is that comment about European and American gaming preferences. Please, please, please don't let it be some kind of coded phrase for dumbing the game down. The retards already have Oblivion to enjoy, we don't need another one.
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2 Versions
May 20, 2008, 09:31
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2 Versions May 20, 2008, 09:31
May 20, 2008, 09:31
 
If they're going to make 2 versions... how about one without shitty controls?

Get your games from GOG DAMMIT!
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Re: 2 Versions
May 20, 2008, 10:02
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May 20, 2008, 10:02
 
. The team invested months of research into the differences between European and American gaming preferences, so much so that there will be two different color palettes for Arcania: North American (bright and beautiful) and European (muted and gritty).
Yes European gamers and North American gamers are different species. They cannot mate and produce offspring.

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Re: 2 Versions
May 20, 2008, 10:10
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May 20, 2008, 10:10
 
Its a well known fact that Europeans like buggy games with low production value. Its a well known fact that Americans like dumbed down console type games.

Combine the two and you truly have something special.

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Re: Wonder if people actually believe this?
May 20, 2008, 10:17
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Re: Wonder if people actually believe this? May 20, 2008, 10:17
May 20, 2008, 10:17
 
So they're admitting Gothic 3 is unplayable?

Then where is the link with the information for my refund?

Oh, right, they do not really give a damn. As such, I hope everything associated with the Gothic name fails - the game, the developers, the publishers.
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Gothic has always been a bit mentally stunted; the first two games were okay-ish, but contained numerous technical and/or gameplay issues. However, small steps were made from the first game to the second game to improve things. Continuing the evolutionary trend, Gothic 3 should have been a better overall experience and possibly the first game that one could just say was "good" without having to add any disclaimers about bugs, a small developer, a diamond in the rough, flaws, etc.

But what we ultimately got? For the time, the worst game in the series, one with a nearly unplayable combat system, a profound number of bugs (especially ones that directly, negatively affected the player,) more focus on graphics than gameplay, etc.

Done with all purchases of this franchise,
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Re: 2 Versions
May 20, 2008, 10:20
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May 20, 2008, 10:20
 
Combine the two and you get total shit

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They're right about one thing...
May 20, 2008, 10:35
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They're right about one thing... May 20, 2008, 10:35
May 20, 2008, 10:35
 
Back in the day, I spent a few hours trying to get Gothic to run, failed. The graphics were totally screwn and while I'm sure it was a driver issue, I haven't bothered with a Gothic game since.

As for the rest, Oblivion was a bore-fest and color schemes don't mean shit. If they want to look to another company for inspiration, they need go no further than Europe's own CD Projekt. Then again, when the The Witcher was released, it was a bug-fest too. But it is still the best RPG to come out in years.

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Re: They're right about one thing...
May 20, 2008, 10:54
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May 20, 2008, 10:54
 
The Witcher was a great Adventure Game, it was a crap cRPG.

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Re: They're right about one thing...
May 20, 2008, 10:56
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May 20, 2008, 10:56
 
Thing is, I am European and I don't like dull graphics, does it mean I am screwed?

Agreed Umbragen, The witcher has been the best rpg in the last few years. I don't see what makes it an adventure game and not a rpg.... adventure games don't allow choices... is your definition of a rpg a game where you can decide to be a rogue a warrior a mage or a priest?

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Re: They're right about one thing...
May 20, 2008, 11:40
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May 20, 2008, 11:40
 
Yeah, for me, The Witcher is the best cRPG to grace the PC since Planescape Torment. I was blown away by the atmosphere in it, and I found the story to be brilliant as well. In fact, it's the first RPG in which I can remember the names of most secondary characters (that are not party members, that is), because they are significant and unique enough to be remembered.

Now I'm playing Jade Empire, and though I can see it's a good game, it feels a bit stale after The Witcher. Maybe it's the blatantly obvious "good/evil/neutral" choices that make me feel like that.

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New name?!
May 20, 2008, 11:58
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New name?! May 20, 2008, 11:58
May 20, 2008, 11:58
 
That new name is awful and generic, sounds like a budget title created by Uwe Boll.

Gothic 1 and 2 were fantastic, Gothic 3 was disappointing to say the least, but it surely wasn't reason to ditch the franchise.

Oh, and ROFLMAOHAHAHA at "America = bright and beautiful & Europe = muted and gritty". Research money well spent!

Well there's one less game to look forward to, thanks DreamCatcher!

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May 20, 2008, 12:11
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May 20, 2008, 12:11
 
It's too bad that marketing teams can't come up with the realization that people like good games that work.

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Re: New name?!
May 20, 2008, 12:22
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May 20, 2008, 12:22
 
"America = bright and beautiful & Europe = muted and gritty". Research money well spent!

Well there's one less game to look forward to, thanks DreamCatcher!

More like Market researchers like cocaine and parties, then realize one day before their project is due that they need something in powerpoint, so they get to pull an allnighter (thank god for cocaine!)

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Re: 2 Versions
May 20, 2008, 12:28
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May 20, 2008, 12:28
 
If they're going to make 2 versions... how about one without shitty controls?

That's why I stopped playing them. Digital gymnastics do not enhance gameplay, and releasing a modern PC game without fully configurable controls is just plain fucking laziness on the part of the design team. It's not a disease restricted to crap design studios, either: Relic has the same problem.

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Name calling
May 20, 2008, 12:32
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Second, and completely from a marketing perspective, it helps give the Gothic franchise a fresh start in North America, where it has failed to gain significant popularity.

QFT!

So they'll basically pull the wool over unsuspecting gamers? For shame!

And gaining popularity in the good old US-of-A is goal one for DreamCatcher.

Well they can start by not renaming titles of game franchises. Second calling it good old US-of-A is insulting methinks. Third, publish better titles! Nearly all of their games have been total crapfests. The icing on the cake has to be Frank Herbert's Dune. What in the hell were they thinking publishing that title?

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May 20, 2008, 12:44
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May 20, 2008, 12:44
 
Dreamcatchers? they published Dungeon Lords. The game was a bug ridden mess and easily one of the worst games I've ever played ..I have zero confidence they'll force the developer to make a polished game

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Re: Name calling
May 20, 2008, 12:45
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May 20, 2008, 12:45
 
Second calling it good old US-of-A is insulting methinks.

err, explain to me how that is insulting? good refers to something being, you know, good. and US-of-A is short for (you guessed it) United States of America.

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Re: Wonder if people actually believe this?
May 20, 2008, 12:48
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Re: Wonder if people actually believe this? May 20, 2008, 12:48
May 20, 2008, 12:48
 
i gather they got the bright and beautiful idea from oblivion. either way, shouldnt they just make it a toggle?

personally i prefer dark and gritty but apparently 'research' says otherwise!

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Re: Name calling
May 20, 2008, 12:48
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May 20, 2008, 12:48
 
err, explain to me how that is insulting? good refers to something being, you know, good. and US-of-A is short for (you guessed it) United States of America.

The whole "US of A" thing is a sort of... southern... slang term. It implies that we're all a bunch of rednecks or something.

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