PHJF:
I'm not sure what you mean. Dolby digital 5.1 is very differant from Dolby Digital Live.
DD 5.1 what many movies use (those that don't use DTS) and is either decoded on your soundcard and sent out to 6 speakers, or sent out directly using something like AC3 on a digital connection.
Creative has had support for outputting an AC3 signal containing dolby digital using a digital connection on audigy/live!/ and x-fi cards, and also supported decoding dolby digital to output through 5.1 analog connections from I think since audigy (live! could just output the AC3, it couldn't decode it).
DD Live (which I was talking about below in previous posts) is the ability to take ANY signal, and real time encode it to become a dolby digital surround signal. Specifically, its very useful in games so you don't need an analog hookup anymore you can go 100% digital signal.
This is what NO sound card sold by creative has or has ever had, its at least a 6 year old technology.
My soundcard X-Fi, has digital. In fact, it lets you configure one of the plugs on the back as either a digital plug, or a mic in. They call it a "flexi jack"
Now since I use the mic in games, I kinda need that to be used for a mic. So yeah, its a poor design from that standpoint.
But AFAIK, all creative cards since live! (like audigies and x-fi) have offered some sorta digital output. BTW, digital is not just optical.
Fortunately for me, since I got the platinum x-fi, I got the live-drive (or whatever creative is calling the drive bay module now) and it DOES have optical on the front. Its a pain to have cables going from front of my computer to the back (another poor design choice, I prefered the live! daughter card for the extra output/inputs). But at least I have digital optical.
Now if you were talking about how the creative cards without a drive bay device don't have an OPTICAL connection, there you may be correct. But you said "digital" not "optical" so you are not correct in that sense.
Note that I'm not disgreeing with you about creative being pathetic. I'm just disagreeing with the some of your stated reasons (or the way you stated them if you meant to say optical instead of digital for instance).
This comment was edited on Mar 25, 16:44.