Look what thye are doing to gaming these days. So sad...

OH hey hey now Blue, I'll take you on in some vocal competition.

Altho I totally agree, no matter which instrument you play, IF you're winning, they quit out. every time.

I'm pretty sure that while I have several pseudo-wins under my belt, I have precisely ZERO recorded ones.

Use the brand new TrueSkill™ Matchmaking system to play against opponents with similar skills, personalities, and gaming tastes.

Or, in my experience doing online vocal competition in Rock Band:

Use the brand new TrueSkill™ Matchmaking system to play against opponents who have less than one-thirtieth of your own TrueSkill score even after they quit half-way through your prior match and you marked their profile "avoid this player."

To my experience, TrueSkill = Random.

Xbox Live Gold Membership:

* Play your Xbox 360 multiplayer games online with the premiere online gaming service.
* Use the brand new TrueSkill™ Matchmaking system to play against opponents with similar skills, personalities, and gaming tastes.
* Give player feedback to rate your teammates and opponents on their sportsmanship, abilities, and conduct to influence matchmaking.
* Play select original Xbox® games online (the Xbox 360 Hard Drive is required).
* Get access to exclusive Gold Member content.
* Engage in video chat.
* Enjoy all the Xbox Live Silver features (below).

Xbox Live Silver Membership:

* Go online free of charge.
* Register a unique gamertag and set up your individual gamer card to keep track of your gaming accomplishments.
* Engage in one-on-one Voice Over Internet Protocol (VOIP) and chat with your friends via the Xbox 360 Headset.
* Access Xbox Live Marketplace, download and view demos, trailers, and purchase classic and casual games over Xbox Live Arcade using Microsoft® Points.
* Preview Xbox Live Gold during free weekend trials.
* Download auto updates and free downloads for your Xbox 360 games.
* Access Xbox Live Message Center where you can send and receive voice and text messages from other members.
* Compare gaming stats and achievements against other Xbox Live members.
* Use your friends list to see who's online.

Hmm.. I think I'd go with the...

Xbox Live NO EXTRA BS EXCUSES TO CHARGE PEOPLE FOR STUFF THEY DON'T WANT Membership

* Play select original Xbox® games online

Of course, some people like the other stuff. They can pick gold or silver then.

Yeah they want to try and "entice" people like me who generally don't game online a reason to go gold, by stripping out silver features. That week delay for demos isn't going to do it. Actually, there isn't much, if anything, that would get me to pay for it.

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Live account feature list...probably not all encompassing, but good enough. One thing I do notice missing is that Gold members get demo's a week before Silver.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/features/goldenage.htm

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"except for the online multiplayer"

Wouldn't that be a pretty big sticking point?

I'd say that's probably the number one reason for going online if the first place.

"except for the online multiplayer"

Wouldn't that be a pretty big sticking point?

# Where's all the 360 fanboys with the "you get what you pay for" comments when comparing LIVE to PSN?

As far as I can tell Live is entirely free except for the online multiplayer. I've browsed around it for a bit and wasn't locked out of anywhere and could use everything it looked like.

I pretty much just use the 360 as a media center extender so I don't know what else a pay subscription gets you. I think it's just paying for a matchmaking service for the most part.

I think the drive requirement is a step in the right direction. The core system was a terrible idea.

This comment was edited on Jan 30, 15:12.

Well the disclaimer on the box is in pretty fine print...and from my understanding it wasn't mentioned before. I could be wrong since I haven't seen it for myself and didn't follow previews for Burnout Paradise. But it seems to be a fairly new revelation.

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Where's all the 360 fanboys with the "you get what you pay for" comments when comparing LIVE to PSN?

Too busy getting pissed at EA for this...

360 Burnout Paradise online needs hard drive.

pissed at them for that? hell no, i praise them for that. tired of being held back by people that bought the non hard drive version of the 360. kind of wish MS would be like "look, you can still play SOME games, but other require the HDD. sorry!" honestly, i wish they never even released a non HDD version to begin with

Where's all the 360 fanboys with the "you get what you pay for" comments when comparing LIVE to PSN?

Too busy getting pissed at EA for this...

360 Burnout Paradise online needs hard drive.

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Where's all the 360 fanboys with the "you get what you pay for" comments when comparing LIVE to PSN?

I don't mind the limit, I think it keeps devs in check so they don't eat up HD space with unnecessary stuff. And as mentioned, if they want to release extra content for free, that's their right.

Considering what some developers have achieved with the old 50MB limit, there isn't a lot of room to argue. But we'll argue anyway.

Microsoft needs to start selling the 160GB HD for 99 bucks and lift the XBLA limit to 250 or 300 megs. The hard drive space problem is only going to get worse as time goes on. The orginal 20 GB drive is already keeping me from buying HD movies and Xbox orginals.

Bonus packs seem like a happy medium. Either MS should let them offer the game at whatever size they want. (this game warrants any exception needed) Or they should just cut it up into peices and put each peice onto Live.

Lumines Live did this but I wouldn't say it worked out very well for them. The extra content they were asking you to pay for didn't really feel "worth it" and in the end the game ended up costing like $32 if you wanted the whole thing...

If the PS3 gets a signifcantly better version of this game I can see myself picking one up just for this...
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I agree with nin on this. the size limit is smart MOST of the time, but for a game like this, MS should let em through.

Altho there IS a sneaky little way the devs could get this thru...anything they couldn't fit in the initial 150 megs could be put in as a free "bonus pack", available day 1. That way IF they could fit JUST the HD content into the 150 megs, they could make the original game a "free bonus download" for those who purchased the HD game.

Team17 pulled this exact same stunt with Worms HD. It came with 3 landscapes, and several more were available for free (altho a couple are pay ones).

Here's an idea: MS? Pull your fucking heads out!



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