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Stuff is starting to cost money that never cost money before because of the sole fact these people are greedy as hell and the consumers don't care or are to stupid to know otherwise (we are talking about console users here)

And you'd have to be stupid to think that the PC EVER had the features or capability in a single program like Live. Stop thinking of it as paying for a particular feature, and think of it as paying for FUNCTIONALITY, something that MP gaming on the PC is woefully lacking in. And always will be.

I was a PC gamer for a VERY long time; started out playing the original text-based games, moved on to some of the original "massively multiplayer" games like WarBirds and Meridian, and still do the majority of my gaming there though I've recently started playing a bit of MP over Xbox Live, but I would NEVER lament MS charging $50 for what is without a doubt a far superior multiplayer interface than the PC has EVER had.

Sure, you can get your "Friends Lists" on AIM, MSN, etc.... but you can't see what, if anything, they're playing. If they are playing a game, you're screwed you can't talk to them AT ALL. And since you can't even see what they're playing you can't even start it up and try to find them on the servers for that particular game, since every game has its' own servers. Microsoft actually tried it with MSN quite a while ago, but it never caught on, simply because MSN wasn't that popular at the time combined with no developers outside of MS' own games would implement any of the features.

Live doesn't offer anything that you can't do on the PC for free, that's true. But it's about a thousand times more convenient and easier to use.

With 3 button presses you can open a live chat with anyone in any game. Try that on a PC. You can't. The best you can hope is that your buddy is on the same TeamSpeak/Ventrilo server as you, but then that means he's not on the same one as the guys he's playing with.

With 3 button presses you can text anyone in any game. Try that on a PC. You can't. Sure, you can text your buddies anytime you want with IM software, but they won't be able to see your message until they quit their game.

Want to play with your buddies? With 2 clicks you can be put right into their game. You can do that NOW on the PC, but that's a pretty recent development and there's still a LOT of PC games where joining a buddies game is still a matter of manually seeking out the name of the game they started (and good luck knowing that without joining a TeamSpeak server beforehand, which is an effort in and of itself).

With Live, EVERY person is playing EVERY game on what is essentially the same server. There's no hunting a buddy down trying to figure out what game they're playing or what "room" they're in (a wonderful feature that many PC games still use for some reason). There's no pre-game setup of the TeamSpeak servers and channel settings and then the subsequent fact that, by doing do you just alienated yourself from everyone else you're playing with or against, since they wouldn't be on the same server -- you could join the in-game voice interaction, but then you'd be alienated from your friends. There's no way to be possibly reached by everyone, you have to choose. Texting while in game is virtually impossible. You can often text within your GAME, but very few games allow texting from a room to a game or vice versa, let alone to someone playing a completely different game.

There is only one piece of software for the PC even coming close to the true features and functionality and that is the new Steam community. But, even then, you're limited to just interacting with friends that are playing over Steam. If they're playing something else, they might as well not even exist; you can't interact with them at all. Unless you happen to have their cell number and can pick up the phone and call them.

There's a reason why, to this very day, I pay $40/month for a personal cell phone. And it is exclusively for multi-player gaming on the PC. It is EXPONENTIALLY easier to just call up my buddies and use a cellphone and a headset to find out if he's playing something tonight, coordinate our games, chat in game, etc. That is literally the only thing I keep a personal cell phone for since my business one would be fine for my otherwise occassional personal use.

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