Out of the Blue

I was driving MrsBlue to the train this morning when we each asked the other if they had passed wind (the kind of intimate conversation that one gets married to experience). When the answer was no, we thought something had died in our car (the smell was that bad), but then I saw I had stepped in dog poo, which is not the easiest thing to check for while driving. I must have stepped in it between our house and our car, which means it was on our walk, which means I need to go shopping for a "Curb Your Dog" sign, though I may need to make one of my own, as I'm pretty sure the store-bought kind won't offer the level or profanity I am seeking.

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CoD 4
Oct 11, 2007, 11:26
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CoD 4 Oct 11, 2007, 11:26
Oct 11, 2007, 11:26
 
No Cod4 demo yet?....also the new FEAR demo hit under the radar for some reason, I D/L'ed last night


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Eeew
Oct 11, 2007, 12:54
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Eeew Oct 11, 2007, 12:54
Oct 11, 2007, 12:54
 
What a lovely glimpse of married life!

I got a new kitten about a month ago. That little things passes smelly cat farts like nobody's business. And then he looks at me all innocent like. I think I should probably take him to the vet. Even my other cat runs away in disgust.

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Re: Eeew
Oct 11, 2007, 13:00
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Re: Eeew Oct 11, 2007, 13:00
Oct 11, 2007, 13:00
 
Blue, curb your enthusiasm.


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I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 13:21
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I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 13:21
Oct 11, 2007, 13:21
 
I always wanted to find the people who let their dogs crap in other peoples yards and rub their nose in their dog's poo.

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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 13:36
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 13:36
Oct 11, 2007, 13:36
 
Hey Guys,

Lately I've been itching to play some games again and my 6yr old 1.2ghz PC does not cut it anymore. I am looking for a guide for putting together a decent gaming PC for a decent price. I did some searching but could only find old guides or guides for very bare-bones $500 rigs - I would like something half decent that will run today's games but does not have to run at 2048x with 16X FSAA etc... As always any links/guidance is greatly appreciated!

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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 14:15
Enahs
 
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 14:15
Oct 11, 2007, 14:15
 Enahs
 
What is the price range you are interested in?



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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 14:26
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Oct 11, 2007, 14:26
 

What a classic OotB. That one has to go on the all time fave list ...


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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 14:29
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 14:29
Oct 11, 2007, 14:29
 
Enahs,

Funny I was going to say "Well my pricing is in Canadian..." but that dosn't really matter anymore I am hoping around $1000-$1500 but it's been so long I have forgetten how much components usually cost. I won't need to replace my case, DVD burner and sound card. So I am primarily looking at MOBO, Processor, RAM, Power Supply and Video Card unless I am forgetting something major.

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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 14:54
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 14:54
Oct 11, 2007, 14:54
 
...but that dosn't really matter anymore...

The Dollars may be at parity in the money markets, but there's still a huge price disparity between Canadia and Ameristan. You can buy online, true, but if it's shipped via UPS you're gonna get hosed on the duties
I eat pasta!
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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 15:31
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 15:31
Oct 11, 2007, 15:31
 
Hmm I never even thought about that - if they ship Purolator will it make a difference? lol

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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 15:55
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 15:55
Oct 11, 2007, 15:55
 
Well, a quick list:

Memory - $185
Patriot Extreme performance 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220227

Video card - $355
EVGA 8800GTS 640MB
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130071

MB - $130
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R (no firewire though)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

Processor - $278
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (look for the G0 stepping - SLACR - shop around to guarantee that version - runs cooler and less power draw)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

PS - $55 !!! after rebates
COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro 500 RS-550-ACAA-A1 ATX12V / EPS12V 550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171025

That's what I am using now - works out to $1,003 plus tax and shipping. I'm sure you can look around and shave a few $$$ here and there.

Edit - got my SLACR Q6600 at ClubIT - they have it for $265.
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1938460

There - just saved you $13 - now only $990!

Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 15:56
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 15:56
Oct 11, 2007, 15:56
 
Where in Canada are you? There are options!
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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 16:02
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 16:02
Oct 11, 2007, 16:02
 
Oh, and by the way - I have all this in an Antec Nine Hundred case. All the fans are on low except the large one on top - have that one on medium.

And this setup/case is pretty darn quiet! I thought with all the fans it would not be (especially with the vent in the side), but it sits on my desk and is very quiet. Loudest thing in it is the DVD drives. Even the video card is near silent in my limited use so far.


Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

Have I lied to you? I mean, in this room? Trust me, leave that thing alone. - GLaDOS

Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? - Ripley
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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 16:12
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 16:12
Oct 11, 2007, 16:12
 

And this setup/case is pretty darn quiet!

I have an Antec TX-something full tower case, and it's really quiet too. Compared to my last few Antec cases, this latest one has fewer, but much larger, fans. Apparently this moves as much air but does so WAY more quietly...


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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 16:27
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 16:27
Oct 11, 2007, 16:27
 
Wow thanks very much for that list! I am located in Mississauga which is just outside of Toronto, ON. Funny you mention the quiet case - the one I have now I have to keep the sides off of because the vid card overheats easy and the fan I have on the processor has gotten so loud I have to shut the door when I am not in the room. Please keep the advice coming

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EA to buy Bioware
Oct 11, 2007, 16:28
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EA to buy Bioware Oct 11, 2007, 16:28
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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 16:29
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 16:29
Oct 11, 2007, 16:29
 
OsinO - no more advice needed.

Go with what he posted.
I have the same mobo, same vid, diff case, diff RAM, a Duo Core that can overclock to beat the pants off of that Quad and also the Duo has a faster BUS - but it all comes out to be about 1k-1.2k for a new rig.

The products listed are some of the best out there.
Can't go wrong.

/WH - how do you like that mobo!

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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 17:20
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 17:20
Oct 11, 2007, 17:20
 
I always check http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/guides/ and look at his high end and value gaming rigs. It's a good starting point to see what to look for when building your own. Of course what the others have listed here would do nicely!


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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 17:39
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 17:39
Oct 11, 2007, 17:39
 
OsinO - no more advice needed.

Go with what he posted.
I have the same mobo, same vid, diff case, diff RAM, a Duo Core that can overclock to beat the pants off of that Quad and also the Duo has a faster BUS - but it all comes out to be about 1k-1.2k for a new rig.

The products listed are some of the best out there.
Can't go wrong.

/WH - how do you like that mobo!

Thanks, I think.

I went with the Quad because of the immenent implementation of multi-core processor use by games like UT3 and others. If it has more than 2 cores, you can use them. Also, the Quads are unlocked, so changing the FSB is easy-peasy and they overclock like mad according to all accounts. Ignore Bat's witty commentary - go Quad, baby!

Tim Sweeney: Unreal Engine 3's threading support is quite scalable. We run a primary thread for gameplay, and a secondary thread for rendering. On machines with more than two cores, we run additional threads to accelerate various computing tasks, including physics and data decompression. There are clear performance benefits to quad-core, and though we haven't looked beyond that yet, I expect further gains beyond quad-core in future games within the lifetime of Unreal Engine 3.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?article_id=602522

ID Software added multi-CPU support for Quake 4 in patch version 1.2 and above which saw frame rate performance improvements of around 25% and above. Valve intends to add Multi-Core CPU support to their Source engine in Q1 next year before the release of Episode 2. Although besides pure frame rate improvements, Valve are not just thinking about the FPS numbers, they want to improvement the overall game play experience with vastly improved AI and physics.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/976/valve_talks_about_multi_core_cpu_processing_in_source/index.html

The MB itself has been great.

A couple comments on it. Make sure you go in and check the voltages - standard BIOS setup was not auto for optimum voltages, I think it was set a bit lower. Changed it to auto and everything went from *WARNING* to "yeah, you're cool". Also, seems like some folks are having a couple memory problems.

1) installing the OS with 4 GB installed. I just put in one chip (2GB) and put the second in after installing the OS.

2) having the memory in banks 0 and 2 instead of 1 and 3. I just used 1 and 3 as a precaution and had no problems at all with memory configuration or recognition.

The MB is also slightly smaller than most P35 MB, which is very nice! Also has 6 phase power design for more stability (most use 3 or 4 phase), among other things. Still wish it had firewire, but I just bought an add-in FW card at Fry's for $20. You can read all the fancy Gigabyte marketing stuff here:

http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Default.aspx

Edit - man, I MEANT GB for the RAM, how come nobody corrected me???

Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
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Have I lied to you? I mean, in this room? Trust me, leave that thing alone. - GLaDOS

Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? - Ripley
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Re: I HATE that...
Oct 11, 2007, 17:43
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Re: I HATE that... Oct 11, 2007, 17:43
Oct 11, 2007, 17:43
 
MB - $130
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R (no firewire though)


hey i am using the same MB!

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