America's Army Backlash

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch (thanks GamePolitics) reports on Iraq war backlash directed towards the America's Army game, which has drawn the ire of a group called Iraq Veterans Against the War. The report, which is from a couple of weeks ago, describes a scene where 90 members of the group stood in formation in front of a recruiting event shouting "war is not a game" in a protest that lasted a few minutes. From the description, this sounds like a spontaneous event, rather than part of a larger campaign:
They were referring to the large military simulation game set up by Army recruiters at the Missouri Black Expo. The group of veterans, known as Iraq Veterans Against the War, were in St. Louis for their annual meeting this weekend when they decided to stage a brief demonstration at the Expo.
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Sep 4, 2007, 21:15
PHJF
 
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Sep 4, 2007, 21:15
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Glad these guys are just uncovering an Unreal-Engine-1 game. Looks like our military really does have shitty intel.
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If this were a game
Sep 4, 2007, 21:27
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If this were a game Sep 4, 2007, 21:27
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If this were a "highly-anticipated" game, men in blacks suits have already invaded the veterans neighborhoods, first-person and vehicular action over various terrain, gun battles in 15 different urban settings, save your friends and family from the evil government regime! In stores...when it's done.





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AA Great Game
Sep 4, 2007, 22:23
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AA Great Game Sep 4, 2007, 22:23
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Like many Americans this group fails to understand the basic concept of the game as a tool for recruitment. Most of us have all played the game & have actually learned quite a lot about how the military works & have been educated. The shooting portion of the game is actually a small part of the bigger picture. The army has stated numerous times that the game has been a "good" recruitment tool. Just my .2

I'm looking forward to the Unreal 3 engine upgrade..eventually.



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Re: AA Great Game
Sep 4, 2007, 23:00
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Sep 4, 2007, 23:00
 
War is a game though. Life is a game. Everything is a game.

The sooner they get that, the sooner they can start having fun & start saving credits (money) so that they can buy levels (cars and houses) and stop crying like newbs!

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"War is a game though. Life is a game. Everything is a game.

The sooner they get that, the sooner they can start having fun & start saving credits (money) so that they can buy levels (cars and houses) and stop crying like newbs!"


Quoted for TRUTH!




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Re: AA Great Game
Sep 5, 2007, 00:08
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Sep 5, 2007, 00:08
 
Quoted for TRUTH!

What the fuck are you people talking about?

Look I played America's Army back in the day. I thought it sucked (although I was never any good at it). Anyone who is actually influenced one way or the other by this game has to be a very rare breed of malleable moron.

But -- these protesters are vets who almost certainly *realize* the game is a recruiting tool, and this is exactly why they are speaking out against it. You seem to think they have no clue what the game was designed for and they're just mad it "depicts war as a game" (though you say it is, anyway -- ugh).

Are your comments sarcasm, or are you idiots? "Stop crying..." you say. Seriously, what the fuck?

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Sep 5, 2007, 00:42
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Sep 5, 2007, 00:42
 
You should read the book "The Art of War" and "Enders Game" these books are required reading in many Military colleges. War is in fact a game in many ways someone always loses. This tool that the Army uses is just one more medium they can use to recruit people as well as TEACH them a "light" fundamental grasp of Army life.

BTW: I played AA as well and I too sucked at it. But I OWN at BF2 Project Reality...hehe

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Sep 5, 2007, 01:36
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"Stop crying..." you say. Seriously, what the fuck?

Yes, stop crying! The war in Iraq is a war with the lowest amount of casualities for a war of this magnitude that has lasted this long in all human history.

SO STOP CRYING! QUit being sheeple & realize that besides costing too much, this is *NOT* a bad war. Bunch of idiots that can't even think for themselves & instead believe every fuckin thing that they're spoon fed by the media.

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Sep 5, 2007, 02:04
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 Flo
 
Not a bad war? It is based on lies nevertheless, WMD my ass...
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Oh, come on now Flo. They proved Iraq had WMD in the end. Sure, the acronym was a little off with Weapons of Minor Disturbance.

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Yeah, a pointless war.

If you're not prepared to use millions of troops and completely occupy and suppress the populace, why invade?

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Are you honestly this stupid???

First of all, we want Iraq as an ally in the arab world, not an enemy. That's a good reason to invade & kill Saddam Hussein.

Second of all, Zarquawi is the reason there is a civil war there. Not us. He bombed religious mosques and started that war. We dropped 2 500 pound bombs on him & killed him. But the damage was already done.

Third, this is about oil; but we don't need the oil. We just want a friendly nation at any cost because we're fuckin' sick and tired of OPEC holding it hostage everytime they don't get their way. We *NEED* an ally.

Fourth, we haven't had another serious Terrorist attack since 9/11. Duh? Even the terrorists have to think twice when we have so many troops there. GET A FUCKIN' CLUE!!

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Sep 5, 2007, 05:58
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Sep 5, 2007, 05:58
 
Stupid americans defend a stupid war with stupid reasons.

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9-11 was an inside job.

This war on "terror" has no real enemy and therefore can never be won. The whole point of this "War on Terror" is to maximize profits all around.

It's the same Bullshit that Hitler used to get the Nazis rolling through Europe.

1- Stage an event that makes you look under attack

2- Mandate your own law and rules (Patriot act)

3- Start invading countries that you feel like blaming!

America has been suckered in again to make the Rich Richer.

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 Flo
 
Zeph is either a very good troll or, if he really believes what he is saying, a very sad sad person.
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if I'm an Islamic fundamentalist, why bother getting on a plane to the USA to blow up civilians? the USA sends poorly equipped volunteers to my country to act as target practice for me every day, and we have killed over 3,000 of them since 9/11, and injured tens of thousands more. Why fight them in the USA, when they can come to us, where we know the territory, the language, the people, and we have a huge army of people to support us who resent the destruction of their country by the US and her allies.
Seriously, you are playing directly into their hands.
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Sep 5, 2007, 09:14
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Sep 5, 2007, 09:14
PJ
 
Jesus Saves... the rest of you take damage!

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Sep 5, 2007, 09:52
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Sep 5, 2007, 09:52
 
Jesus Saves... the rest of you take damage!

not what I had in mind after reading those comments, but fitting nonetheless
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Sep 5, 2007, 10:07
 
Why fight them in the USA, when they can come to us

that is so true. bin laden must be so happy to see more americans in the middle east. it only helps him recruit more fundamentalists into his organization. sad part is the bush administration has no idea what to do with iraq.

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Fourth, we haven't had another serious Terrorist attack since 9/11. Duh? Even the terrorists have to think twice when we have so many troops there. GET A FUCKIN' CLUE!!

you think 9/11 happened overnight? the guys who executed it were in america many years before they made a move. get a clue.

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