Animals slaughtered in processing plants are killed for food, the "outrage" over this is based on the perception that the animal was gruesomely slaughtered and displayed simply for the shock value.
Crushing the skulls of thousands of bovines for food is a matter of practicality, while saying "let's kill this goat because it'll be cool and gross" is a sign of imbalance.
It's not hypocritical to distinguish between the two.

But you are oversensitive, it is NO bullshit. The hypocracy of man never cease to amaze me. I have actually seen an slaughter house and a chicken factory and it's as close to pure evil as anything out of Hollywood. Most of us still eat meat however, the sad thing is that so many seem to live in violent denial of what that means. It REALLY makes no sense that showing a dead goat could be a frontside offense while millions of animals are butchered in processing plants are a natural order.

Dudes, if they can get Jack Thompson to say soemthing stupid about the game they're GOLDEN. The PR stunt looks stupid at first, but in retrospect it'll get a lot of attention for the game.

Yep, some people don't speak out against injustice wars

Oh really? You really can't tell from all the coverage they get in the liberal media. The movies about the massacres and gun trade, all the donation drives that have crept up in the corporate sector, all the donations Americans send out each year to one cause or another.

It's not that people aren't necessarily outraged about worse things going on in the world, it's that American and European societies have insulated themselves against it. And let's face it, unless you work in the military, some aid non-governmental organization, or have family in those regions of the world you're just not going to have much reason to be concerned over it.

So yes, Sony should be chastised heavily for this because 1) it's tasteless 2) it's offensive to just about any sensibility you could have - and don' play the "Americans are just oversensitive" card - bullshit, outside of Ogrish and Rotten, I'd say none of you look at at this sort of crap outside of novelty.

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people will always jump on the chance to be "outraged".. doesnt matter what the actual event or situation is, or how inane and supeficial it may be

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Yep, some people don't speak out against injustice wars, while other people go bat shit crazy over the death of a single goat. What's your point exactly?

On the contrary, this PR guy will publicly take a beating from Sony, but will undoubtedly be getting some hearty back-slaps in private. This one, tiny stunt has put this game front and center in the public eye.

As far as the PR stunt itself: Who cares? They show people with their limbs blown off on the news every night at 6pm, when all the good boys and girls can be exposed to it. We're supposed to get worked up that they showed someones dinner at a party?

WTH is the big deal? Seriously.. people are so friggin' wound up about every little thing these days it's insane!

Actually, I would argue that its quite the opposite. The level of lethargy and apathy present in today's society is incomprehensible. Americans (I am an American and cannot knowledgably speak for other nations) have an amazing ability to disregard even the gravest injustices. The (in)visible resistance to the current Iraq occupation, despite overwhelming domestic opinion polls in its disfavor, is an excellent example of this lethargy.

What a load of nonsense all this is - as though we don't consume millions of animals every year and this is but a drop in the ocean anyhow. Be sad about things happening in Africa and the Middle East, not this. The controversy publicity it has kicked up with headlines in major UK newspapers will have given the sales a healthy shot in the arm, and as it is an excellent game anyhow, more power to them.

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PR people need to grow backbones. I wouldn't apologize for that. I'd put out the whole story, tell the animal rights activists to fuck off, and then have some tasty goat for dinner.

Well, I'm lying. I wouldn't eat the goat, because I've had goat before, and it's not very tasty. Then again, that was Iraqi goat that was probably raised on garbage and shit water... so I might eat it, maybe not. Depends on how brave I'm feeling. But I'd still tell those animal rights activists to fuck off.

Problem is that this is probably not so outrageous to us adults, but just think of all the kids that see this.

Completely inexcusable.

THE KIDS???

WTH is the big deal? Seriously.. people are so friggin' wound up about every little thing these days it's insane!

Four blocks from my house, I can walk past at least three butcher shops that are guaranteed to have goats in the window hanging by their hind legs which have either had their throats slit or have been completely decapitated (in which case, the skinned head would simply be placed beneath the carcass in case you'd like to purchase it as well but lack a heavy enough cleaver to do the job yourself).

Not only that, but unlike the goat that has caused all this uproar, they are In full view of the public; you don't need to be invited to witness the 'horror'. There is a large primary school right around the corner from this kind of 'inexcusable' bloodbath, and another two blocks to the north.

That's just Greektown in a major Canadian city. This event took place in Greece, FFS!! I can guarantee there was an equal amount of 'carnage' on display in the shop windows in the area surrounding the launch party and probably a whole lot more.

The only thing outrageous about this whole situation is that the morons didn't have the good sense to throw that tasty lil bastard on a spit and roast it up! WTF is the point of giving it back to the butcher?

Dumbasses. I'm surrounded by dumbasses.

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The kicker is that the goat's decapitated head is blurred out, while the hostesses bared (albeit painted) breasts are shown without hesitation.

the kicker? it would be wrong on so many levels if they'd done it the other way around! or are you traumatised of seeing boobies?

I think this fits in perfectly with Sony's actions and statements over the last year or so.

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Problem is that this is probably not so outrageous to us adults, but just think of all the kids that see this.

Completely inexcusable. Just another example of how out of touch the Sony execs are with what it's subsidiaries are doing.

The sad thing they will have their hands slapped and that is about it.

The kicker is that the goat's decapitated head is blurred out, while the hostesses bared (albeit painted) breasts are shown without hesitation.

That's not strange at all. While the US has a "sex is bad", "violence is good" mindset, most European countries tend to the reverse. There's nothing wrong with seeing "sex" (ie, naked boobies), but there is with "violence" (ie, a decapitated goat's head).

Personally, however, I find the whole thing blown out of proportion. Yeah, whoever thought this was a good idea should be fired, but it doesn't really bother me in any sense.

If you'd RTFA(the 2nd link, not the scare monger first link), the goat wasn't killed just for this 'party'. The carcass was 'borrowed' from the local butchery apparently. Even without the made up bullshit as in the first link it's pretty stupid. No doubt in my mind that it was a lame PR stunt, which they are now backpedaling on. True to Sonys style.

As long as this goat was used in some way and not just slaughtered and thrown to the trash pile,

Isn't that basically what happened?

Lmao which Sony PR guy thought this was a good idea? I'm sure his career is ruined now. I mean hello, Sony. Did you guys not expect a torrent of shit to go down after decapitating a goat just for a PR spot?

As to decapitating goats. Animal Rights is so freaking stupid. Do they realize how many goats are decapitated around the world each day? As long as this goat was used in some way and not just slaughtered and thrown to the trash pile, I don't see a problem.

Not to mention this does NOT help with the whole 'violent videogames' mess that is going on right now, since the VT shooter, though he had absolutely no association with gaming, didn't have any form of it on his person or in his dorm. That doesn't stop Jack Thomson from stating he was an avid shooter player and 'trained' on Counterstrike, as if it were fact.

The kicker is that the goat's decapitated head is blurred out, while the hostesses bared (albeit painted) breasts are shown without hesitation.

man, thousands of goats, cows and other animals are being killed every day, why is that one that got killed in sony so big a deal? ever seen a goat face to face before? they're stupid. not like dogs, for example.
so many people are neutral to see PEOPLE and CHILDREN die of starvation, but when an animal with hardly any brains or understanding gets killed, its an outrage.

edit: the goat was also got from a butcher, and returned after the party. more a reason why it doesn't even matter.
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