Piracy versus PC Gaming [Mar 09, 2007, 8:23 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Next Generation recaps a GDC talk titled "The Videogame Piracy Problem:
Fifteen Men on a Dead Man’s Chest" by id Software CEO Todd Hollenshead about the
impact of piracy on the game industry. They outline how Mr. Hollenshead says the
estimated $3 billion economic loss caused by piracy in 2004 does not include
piracy that takes place on the Internet. There is also an article about this
talk on
Joystiq that focuses on the statement that piracy is a factor in id's
embrace of consoles, quoting Todd as saying "Piracy has pushed id as being
multiplatform." On a related note,
Can PC
Gaming Survive in a Console World (thanks
Digg) recaps a panel discussion on the topic that brought up a similar
point:
Part of the problem is piracy. Big titles get stolen by cyber thieves, and it hurts revenue. "The market," said Capps, "that would buy a $600 video card knows how Bittorrent works."
Does that mean casual games, which exponentially outsell what PC gaming traditionalists think of as A-list titles, will one day rule? Hilleman made a point: casual is a poor choice of words. The average player on EA's Pogo "casual" game network plays "for 24 hours a week. There's nothing casual about that."
There is some light in the PC gaming world. World of Warcraft, for instance, is a massive hit, and the upcoming Spore looks not only creative and different, but promising. The MMO and other social networking games could become the norm for PC gaming, with big-ticket titles growing rarer with each passing year. Johnson added that MMOs are "successful because you can't pirate WoW. You cannot pirate an MMO. Period." Therefore, he said, "game design on the PC is going to bend toward persistence."
mOOzilla, my comment was obviously not aimed at you but at the retards who claim they have to test a game for days to see if it's worth a purchase, the morons who claim piracy doesn't hurt (or even: does help) PC gaming and the idiots who claim it's all the game developers' and publishers' fault and that they are lying through their teeth anyway. Of, I forgot, of course they're all filthy rich and are just waiting to screw us poor PC gamers over in order to get more Ferraris.
Of course the crisis of PC gaming isn't ONLY due to piracy, but the amount of punks in here who think it's got nothing to do with it at all simply amazes me, especially when they go on and at the same time bash consoles, console- and mainstream games and then wonder why their own games "suck" and why there are hardly PC-exclusive games anymore. Personally I had a lot of fun with PC games lately, even though the releases are less frequent I don't see an extraordinary drop in quality like the people who use the "all current games suck, hence they're not worth buying" excuse.
See, this condescending attitude does not help at all, and you not giving a shit is part of the problem. You give a shit about the people making your games, and you give a shit about the people paying for the development of your games, yet you want the absolute best gaming experience, tailored to your hardcore gamer niche market, for as little money as possible, but of course with the highest production values to put your new D3D10 video card and quad-core CPU to the test - see what's wrong with this? Simply put, you cannot ignore the beancounters as they're the ones who decide about funding your precious PC games - or not. They don't give a flying fuck about the purity of PC franchises, if porting to (or primarily developing for) consoles lets them more reliably sell games, they will go for it, regardless of your feelings. Game companies are not a charity and just because some people in the PC scene have this irrational hatred for anything console, doesn't mean every change to make your once hardcore PC franchise a bit more mainstream-friendly is bad.
So, you wonder why some games were moved from PC-exclusive to console-exclusive or at least cross-platform with PC being the "afterthought" consoles once were. The developers of prime PC-based franchises give you a reason why they cannot afford to exclusively develop for PCs anymore. Yet it seems the oh-so-superior and allegedly more intelligent PC gamers cannot grasp the idea that developers don't work for free. Instead, what we get is shitheads arguing semantics and numbers, trying to justify piracy with horrible reasoning and attacking the people WHO MAKE YOUR FUCKING GAMES. Awesome.
Of course the crisis of PC gaming isn't ONLY due to piracy, but the amount of punks in here who think it's got nothing to do with it at all simply amazes me, especially when they go on and at the same time bash consoles, console- and mainstream games and then wonder why their own games "suck" and why there are hardly PC-exclusive games anymore. Personally I had a lot of fun with PC games lately, even though the releases are less frequent I don't see an extraordinary drop in quality like the people who use the "all current games suck, hence they're not worth buying" excuse.
Normal business sense... you say... I don't give a shit what the beancounters "sense"
All I know is that original PC franchises get ported to XBOX,
then ported back to PC. E.g: DE:IW & Thief3. Effectively killing the franchise.
In some cases (e.g: CoD3,Crimson Skies,Midtown Madness) a sequel to PC series is console only. WTF!!!
PC games != Console games.
See, this condescending attitude does not help at all, and you not giving a shit is part of the problem. You give a shit about the people making your games, and you give a shit about the people paying for the development of your games, yet you want the absolute best gaming experience, tailored to your hardcore gamer niche market, for as little money as possible, but of course with the highest production values to put your new D3D10 video card and quad-core CPU to the test - see what's wrong with this? Simply put, you cannot ignore the beancounters as they're the ones who decide about funding your precious PC games - or not. They don't give a flying fuck about the purity of PC franchises, if porting to (or primarily developing for) consoles lets them more reliably sell games, they will go for it, regardless of your feelings. Game companies are not a charity and just because some people in the PC scene have this irrational hatred for anything console, doesn't mean every change to make your once hardcore PC franchise a bit more mainstream-friendly is bad.
So, you wonder why some games were moved from PC-exclusive to console-exclusive or at least cross-platform with PC being the "afterthought" consoles once were. The developers of prime PC-based franchises give you a reason why they cannot afford to exclusively develop for PCs anymore. Yet it seems the oh-so-superior and allegedly more intelligent PC gamers cannot grasp the idea that developers don't work for free. Instead, what we get is shitheads arguing semantics and numbers, trying to justify piracy with horrible reasoning and attacking the people WHO MAKE YOUR FUCKING GAMES. Awesome.
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