Piracy versus PC Gaming [Mar 09, 2007, 8:23 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Next Generation recaps a GDC talk titled "The Videogame Piracy Problem:
Fifteen Men on a Dead Man’s Chest" by id Software CEO Todd Hollenshead about the
impact of piracy on the game industry. They outline how Mr. Hollenshead says the
estimated $3 billion economic loss caused by piracy in 2004 does not include
piracy that takes place on the Internet. There is also an article about this
talk on
Joystiq that focuses on the statement that piracy is a factor in id's
embrace of consoles, quoting Todd as saying "Piracy has pushed id as being
multiplatform." On a related note,
Can PC
Gaming Survive in a Console World (thanks
Digg) recaps a panel discussion on the topic that brought up a similar
point:
Part of the problem is piracy. Big titles get stolen by cyber thieves, and it hurts revenue. "The market," said Capps, "that would buy a $600 video card knows how Bittorrent works."
Does that mean casual games, which exponentially outsell what PC gaming traditionalists think of as A-list titles, will one day rule? Hilleman made a point: casual is a poor choice of words. The average player on EA's Pogo "casual" game network plays "for 24 hours a week. There's nothing casual about that."
There is some light in the PC gaming world. World of Warcraft, for instance, is a massive hit, and the upcoming Spore looks not only creative and different, but promising. The MMO and other social networking games could become the norm for PC gaming, with big-ticket titles growing rarer with each passing year. Johnson added that MMOs are "successful because you can't pirate WoW. You cannot pirate an MMO. Period." Therefore, he said, "game design on the PC is going to bend toward persistence."
Wow, this topic has really gone astray since I last posted. Anyway...
I don't understand why anti-piracy people so quickly resort to insults and belittling. Providing good, coherent and rational arguments that are supported by facts is much more effective.
And when has anyone claimed to have a right to test drive software? Certainly not I. I don't believe in rights. Rights are imaginary constructs that are enforced by no natural laws. They are meaningless and certainly shouldn't be used as a pillar for any debate.
As for the focus of this topic, there were posters who claimed that there are no justifications for piracy. Therefore, I provided some (refer to post #31).
Now, are these the reasons why everyone pirates? No. I only speak for myself. But you can't deny the logic of my justifications. The best way to try out a game is to thoroughly play the final version. It's that simple. There is no possible argument that you can use to refute that statement because it is very obviously indisputable. Is it wrong? Why would it be? Is it wrong to make sure a game is worth your money? I wish I could test everything in life so thoroughly but alas, it simply isn't possible.
Does this hurt the industry? No. If a game proves worthy, I buy it. If a game sucks, I don't. I hold publishers and developers accountable for their actions. If they release a game in an unfinished state and then fail to patch it within a reasonable amount of time, they won't get a sale from me.
So what's the "wrong" here: Publishers releasing crappy, unfinished games that can't be returned once bought or gamers making sure that the games they buy are worth every penny? If you think the second option is "bullshit," perhaps you are the kind of person that publishers love to exploit.
Would all you piracy-justifying clowns in this thread please spare us your twisted bullshit talk about "rights to testdrive software" and other nonsense? While this might even apply for you personally in your twisted world, you as a whole are the absolute minority (probably less than 1% ) in software piracy.
I don't understand why anti-piracy people so quickly resort to insults and belittling. Providing good, coherent and rational arguments that are supported by facts is much more effective.
And when has anyone claimed to have a right to test drive software? Certainly not I. I don't believe in rights. Rights are imaginary constructs that are enforced by no natural laws. They are meaningless and certainly shouldn't be used as a pillar for any debate.
As for the focus of this topic, there were posters who claimed that there are no justifications for piracy. Therefore, I provided some (refer to post #31).
Now, are these the reasons why everyone pirates? No. I only speak for myself. But you can't deny the logic of my justifications. The best way to try out a game is to thoroughly play the final version. It's that simple. There is no possible argument that you can use to refute that statement because it is very obviously indisputable. Is it wrong? Why would it be? Is it wrong to make sure a game is worth your money? I wish I could test everything in life so thoroughly but alas, it simply isn't possible.
Does this hurt the industry? No. If a game proves worthy, I buy it. If a game sucks, I don't. I hold publishers and developers accountable for their actions. If they release a game in an unfinished state and then fail to patch it within a reasonable amount of time, they won't get a sale from me.
So what's the "wrong" here: Publishers releasing crappy, unfinished games that can't be returned once bought or gamers making sure that the games they buy are worth every penny? If you think the second option is "bullshit," perhaps you are the kind of person that publishers love to exploit.
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