Thats why its called LOST no? They LOST the plot.

Hah, watching the TV series LOST is like waiting for Valve releases.

Nah, whereas LOST is now just confusing, painful, clichéd and made up as they go along, Valve are just lazy.

You can go OUTSIDE while you wait for the release?

Just a thought

My Oblivion character spent the last ten hours, out of about 60, without taking a single bit of damage aside from falls.
So scaling or not, making a Godly character is pretty damn easy in that game.

You mean the character wearing armor enchanted with constant effect 120 Chameleon? The character that no enemies could even see? That's not godlike. A godlike character wouldn't need to hide because they'd be invulnerable. I highly doubt your character would take no damage while getting pummeled by a horde of high-level enemies.

Personally, I can't think of another industry where this sort of behaviour is tolerated, let alone acceptable. Sure, it doesn't directly affect the potential customer, but it's certainly not a good way to run an industry.

So is your only form of entertainment video games?

CDs are delayed all the time. Movies are delayed all the time. Books are delayed all the time. TV shows not quite as often, but they're cancelled in the middle of major story arcs all the time.

Except you can't become a Godly character in Oblivion because of level scaling.

My Oblivion character spent the last ten hours, out of about 60, without taking a single bit of damage aside from falls.
So scaling or not, making a Godly character is pretty damn easy in that game.



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Hah, watching the TV series LOST is like waiting for Valve releases.

...they arrive when they arrive. If they wanted to release garbage at a faster rate they would. If they want to wait 3 years between episodes, they will. If it is worth my $$$ I'll buy it. If not, its capitalism at work.

I just don't get the fanatical drooling over a release date. They want to get a product out and you want to buy it. Trust me, if they could do it faster and sell it sooner, they would. Let them finish and judge the final product accordingly. As mentioned previously, they don't have your $$$, so it's not like you are being harmed in any means. Just chill.

Precisely!

The same people bitching about 1 to 1.5 years for an episode would be bitching if they had to wait another 5 years for Half Life 3...and they were bitching about the wait for HL2. It sucks that its not 6 months like they said initially, but shit happens and development isnt easy.

And to the person complaining about engine updates, new models and textures etc...other people were very vocal after episode 1 not being a significant upgrade. Just goes to show you can't please everyone all the time.


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Heh, can you imagine fans going nuts because their favorite author still hasn't finished the next book in the series?

Were you being sarcastic? Because that happens ALL the fucking time. George R R Martin is getting practically roasted alive nowadays because he's taking 19 years to finish up his next book. He's the new Robert Jordan.

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With how long it's taking Valve to create these episodes, Ep2 should be 98 fucking hours long...

Creston

Heh, can you imagine fans going nuts because their favorite author still hasn't finished the next book in the series?

Guess you're too young to remember Philip José Farmer's Riverworld series.

Also, I'm fairly certain this Oblivion update has very little new geometry - I think it's all in the same locations.

Alas, you'd be fairly wrong. If you've seen any footage, screenshots or read any previews, you'd realize that the vast majority of content in Shivering Isles is new. New terrain, new enemies, new buildings, new flora, etc. It looks a lot more like Morrowind than Oblivion (and that's a good thing).

I thoroughly enjoyed Morrowind and Oblivion until I finished the story and became a godly character.

Except you can't become a Godly character in Oblivion because of level scaling.


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No other industry takes 3 years to make something that is marketed directly to the consumer as a dramatic storytelling experience. Oh well.

Really? Read many books?

Heh, can you imagine fans going nuts because their favorite author still hasn't finished the next book in the series?

Or, if you object to lie, misrepresenting. In either case, as customers, constantly giving us release dates that are incorrect is not going to make us happy.

Unless of course your aim is to generate a huge amount of press for absoultly nothing. If valve had said the release was 9/7 18 months ago would now in 3/7 that story make any sites frontpage?

"In further news the game that's not due out for 6 months is till due out in 6 months.." I don't fucking think so.

This is marketing - pure and simple. It's not even the first time valve have used delays to generate massive ammounts of publicity for thier product.

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No other industry takes 3 years to make something that is marketed directly to the consumer as a dramatic storytelling experience. Oh well.

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I have to agree that, with games as a whole, I HATE when people whine about delays. Yes, there are exceptions, DNF, STALKER, but for the most part delays are a good thing.

I think you are misunderstanding the point of frustration that causes the whining. Let's take two scenarios:

Scenario 1) Valve announces that Ep2 will be released Sept 24, 2007. Ep2 is released Sept 24, 2007

Scenario 2) Valve announces that Ep2 will be released Nov 15, 2006. Valve announces that Ep2 will be delayed until Feb 3, 2007. Valve announces that Ep2 will be delayed until May 30, 2007. Valve announces that Ep2 will be delayed until Sept 24, 2007. Ep2 is released Sept 24, 2007.

In both cases, Valve spent the same amount of time working on the game, and getting it to market. But in the first scenario, we would have a lot less whining (I won't say none - some people will always whine) than we have now. The whining isn't that they are taking time to ensure the game is good, it's because they keep lying to us about the release date. Or, if you object to lie, misrepresenting. In either case, as customers, constantly giving us release dates that are incorrect is not going to make us happy.

Personally, I can't think of another industry where this sort of behaviour is tolerated, let alone acceptable. Sure, it doesn't directly affect the potential customer, but it's certainly not a good way to run an industry.

Now your thinking with portals!

I have a portal?
Or my thoughts have portals?

I am confused....

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Oh you got that shit right. I'm still waiting for proof from him that 99% of the people that visit Blues are pirates....

ARRRRRRRRR!!!!

1 out of xx,xxx per day.
So less than 1% thus far.

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Now your thinking with portals!

Does this Episode thingy ship with Portal and TF2?

Mmmm... now we're thinking with portals.