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Here's a newspaper article on the raw food we feed the pups. Many folks have expressed curiosity about this when it has come up before, and this is a rare objective look at what is a bit of a controversial topic in the world of pet care.

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Jan 12, 2007, 20:10
Enahs
 
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Jan 12, 2007, 20:10
 Enahs
 
I brought up the BARF diet.

Did you make it clear you where not talking about humans and barfing after you eat to lose weight?

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Jan 12, 2007, 15:41
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Jan 12, 2007, 15:41
 
Wow.

When we were at the UofM yesterday for the urine/blood test, I brought up the BARF diet. Never seen someone so against something before.

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Jan 11, 2007, 22:28
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Jan 11, 2007, 22:28
 
And I wouldn't "take a poo" with my dog around. Sort of one of those things that separates man from animal. Or so I'd thought.

hehehehe My bathroom door is a rather expensive piece of wood, I would rather let her be happy sitting in the warmest room in the house than have her ruin my door. Can't really disclipine her while I am on the toilet now can I? I might fall off if I reach for the door - then we would all be in a mess.

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Jan 11, 2007, 21:32
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Jan 11, 2007, 21:32
 
You must be fairly modest. Do you refuse to change clothes or take a shower when your dog is around too?

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Jan 11, 2007, 20:32
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Jan 11, 2007, 20:32
 PHJF
 
"when I take a poo"

All right class, now we drink our milk and then it's naptime.

And I wouldn't "take a poo" with my dog around. Sort of one of those things that separates man from animal. Or so I'd thought.

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Jan 11, 2007, 19:11
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Jan 11, 2007, 19:11
 
My dog doesn't like eating her's, cat's, or other's poo.

But she does look at me funny when I take a poo.

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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 18:24
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Jan 11, 2007, 18:24
 Enahs
 
Them's good eats!

Did Alton Brown do an episode about that? Did I miss it?!

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Jan 11, 2007, 17:50
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nothing compared to the odor this dog puts out after eating a can of this wet food. it's so bad, it literally makes my mouth water.
And Enahs made fun of nin for making the jump from dogs eating poop to humans, when here we clearly have evidence of strich's mouth watering at the smell of ripe, fresh dog excretion. Them's good eats!
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Jan 11, 2007, 17:40
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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 15:40
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Jan 11, 2007, 15:40
 
Alright, you fucking bastards, you finally found a way to make me leave - the topic of eating shit.

See ya tomorrow! Get your poop talk over with.

wuss

our ridgeback was looking a little thin during the holidays, so we just started feeding him a can of the wet food once a week and he scarfs it down. but you don't want to be anywher in the house an hour later. i have a 10 year old boy, so i know what nasty smells like, but it's nothing compared to the odor this dog puts out after eating a can of this wet food. it's so bad, it literally makes my mouth water. He and the shepherd eat dry kibble and even though she (the shepherd) doesn't eat as much, she's thicker than the ridge. and she's a bigger wiggle-butt than he is.

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Jan 11, 2007, 14:57
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Jan 11, 2007, 14:57
 
My dog loves gum. She will find any old chewed gum she comes close to on our walks and chomps it down.

We give her wet and dry food twice a day. She has a sensitive stomach and we have a food combination that works well for her. Her weight is ideal and she's a happy dog.

Being a miniature schnauzer, table scraps and red meat are no-no's - pancreatitis.


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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 14:43
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Jan 11, 2007, 14:43
 Enahs
 
Alright, you fucking bastards, you finally found a way to make me leave - the topic of eating shit.

See ya tomorrow! Get your poop talk over with.


Are you that enslaved to your food cravings that if you hear about or dogs eating shit it makes you think about humans eating it?! You need some help!

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Jan 11, 2007, 14:30
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Alright, you fucking bastards, you finally found a way to make me leave - the topic of eating shit.

See ya tomorrow! Get your poop talk over with.



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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 14:15
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 Enahs
 
My dog has never once tried to eat his, another dogs, or my cats fecal matter (not that he really has a chance with the cats, as it is an automated litter box, but I am sure they do it some outside in our yard). That just sounds disgusting.

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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 14:13
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Jan 11, 2007, 14:13
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I was told dogs eat shit as an instinctive parental thing, the sense of which seems rather limited.

One of my retrievers has some terrible skin problem, after flip-flopping on it the vet now thinks it's mites (confessing skin problems are a pain since the scratching often results in one root problem becoming three). Got some pills but feeding some specialised (i.e. expensive) rice diet and making him more comfy in the cooler hall seems to have done most.

All four retreivers I've had have all done best on either super-cheap cereal based food, or the super expensive rice stuff, though they love porridge if I run out. I sometimes wonder if it's because they cant choke these foods down at the alarming rate they demolish the regular kibble.

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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 14:11
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Another typical carnivore trick.

No, im pretty sure hes doing it to gross us out. Theres nothing worse than finding him sitting in the middle of the lounge chewing a cat turd and loving it!

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Re: Dog Food
Jan 11, 2007, 14:11
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She will get a hold of one soon enough.

Do not count on it. Unless it is a stupid squirrel or he gets a sneak ambush on it on the ground, or it is wounded. Catching squirrels is not easy.

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Jan 11, 2007, 14:10
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 Enahs
 
If you want to add commercial food, use canned food -- dogs need virtually zero carbs in their diet

I have tried virtually every kind of canned food, he does not eat it. If I tell him to, he will eat it, but he usually ends up throwing up. And while they do not need carbs, some carbs does not hurt them. Just like we do not need beer, but some beer does not hurt is :), but too much can. He actually prefers the hard kibble over the meat a lot of the time.

This is the kind I use:
http://www.lassie.com/naturalway/natural-way-flash.htm

And as you talked about in the other foods, they use no meat-byproducts.
If you read the ingredients, the first thing listed is meat, unlike even some of the other premium brands.

It does have a decent amount of carbs, but he eats ~half of the amount they recommend for a dog his size that gets moderate level of activity, and he gets more then a moderate level. If Google Earths tracing tool is correct, he gets a 3.5mile walk/jog twice a day ever day (I walk/jog him in rain, snow, ice, just no lighting storms), and 3-4 times a week he chases be at near his top speed on my bike for another ~4 miles at a time. And we play tug and chase and catch and Frisbee for at least a total of 1 hour a day, usually more play…playing with dogs are fun. And because he does get so much exercise as compared to other pets that these products are made for, the carbs are not going to be bad for him at all, he will just burn them right up.

That combined with the ~8 pounds of meat he gets a week, and whenever I eat any meat I give him some small bit of mine (and only meat no other foods, except when I cook spaghetti he does love to eat a couple of raw spaghetti noodle, he lays down and grabs one noodle between his front paws and chews on them, it is so cute, and it is how he got his name: Noodle). He does not ever want for anymore, food can go uneaten (meat and kibble the like). Plus he actually loves the taste.

And for treats every now and then I give him dried lamb lung. He absolutely loves those, if you have not tried them for your dog, do so. And they are basically nothing but pure protein, good for any dog; and I have never met a dog that did not love the taste.

Maybe you want to read up on this, as you are raising concerns that are all addressed by what's generally called a BARF (Bones and Raw Food) diet. Most raw diet dogs fast one day or so per week.

Yes, we have discussed this before. The problem is, early adopters of this type of stuff generally read and pay more attention. I suspect you will find that if this takes off on a mass consumer level, most will not bother to do the proper research and feed them everyday, regardless. It will seem “wrong” to not feed them everyday, which in the long run could end up hurting them. Even people that just read that article might try it, and not find out about the difference in feeding them. Just brining it up for people that read this that do not know, and take it as "just give them meat meat meat".


And as for the organ meat, I again brought it up to let other people know the concerns and question it, I was not making accusations about the brand you use; which kind of seemed to me as you thought I was doing?



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Jan 11, 2007, 13:34
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Jan 11, 2007, 13:34
 
Although im intrigued to know if you attempt to make up the missing 40% with those squirrels of yours?

If they were forrest squirrels, I would have no trouble feeding them to the dog. They are city squirrels, and most likely very diseased.

/edit: But she is getting the hang of spying them and chasing them up the tree and barking.

Good dog.
She will get a hold of one soon enough.

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Jan 11, 2007, 13:33
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Jan 11, 2007, 13:33
 
Although im intrigued to know if you attempt to make up the missing 40% with those squirrels of yours?

You laugh, but that would be fine for them.

In Calvins case he attempts to make it up on his own, dispite my protests, by eating the cat litter.... yeah. Its gross.

Veggie deficiency... he is looking for pre-digested greens in the turds. Another typical carnivore trick. Though in the case of cat turds, it could just be hunger, as they are supposedly high in protein.


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