Wow! Is this for real? This would be much worse than hot coffee.

Where are the pics?

Sounds to me like an April Fools joke 4 months early or someone returned a game and put a porn dvd inside of the case.

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Good god. I always cringe when something like a system shock "spiritual successor" is made to conform to a console gameplay and interface. I bet the interface is going to be attrocious. If there is one thing that is almost true of console/pc games is that the interface is designed for the consoles and hurts the pc release. Best example is oblivions gui. Horrible, made for consoles not PC.

Imagine if the system shock 2 gui was made for consoles. It would be horrible for PC's.
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The Bioshock thing isn't exactly accurate, the article that its being based on is months old (September issue), and has mainly been debunked since.

Good god. I always cringe when something like a system shock "spiritual successor" is made to conform to a console gameplay and interface. I bet the interface is going to be attrocious. If there is one thing that is almost true of console/pc games is that the interface is designed for the consoles and hurts the pc release.

Don't worry. They've designed completely distinct game interfaces; all the GUI stuff just 'sits' on top of the underlying game so that they can just build separate and appropriate UI elements/interfaces for whatever platforms they decide to release it on.

The PC version will be entirely mouse/keyboard driven with drag-n-drop and hotkeys.

The 360 version will have a suitably consolified interface that can be driven quickly and easily with a controller.



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The PC version will be entirely mouse/keyboard driven with drag-n-drop and hotkeys.

Really?
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Where are the pics?

Why, you wanna see Madden doing porn?



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He's 14 and they are worried about him seeing porn? If he's normal, by that age, he should have at least reached 2nd base...and more then likely seen others hit grand slams via the internet, his father's "magazines" in the sock drawer, national geographic, or torrentspy.

Oh, my poor baby! How dare they taint your innocent young mind!

14...hahahaha. There was a time when 14 year olds were having babies...

Oh shit, wait...they still are!

Good god. I always cringe when something like a system shock "spiritual successor" is made to conform to a console gameplay and interface.

I think it depends on the developer. People despised Deus Ex 2's HUD which was console centric yet Oblivion worked out extremely well on both PC and 360 using almost the same exact set-up.

re: Kids and Porn;

when I was 10 I found my brothers stash of extremely hardcore porn. This was back in '71-'72 so the women looked like Janis Joplin with a tree between their legs and the guys all looked like un-clipped versions of the unabomber. Ironically sex one of the few things I had no issue with growing up. I was depressive, addictive, quick to anger but sex was a-ok.

The moral is, hard-core porn for all the kids!

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I think it depends on the developer. People despised Deus Ex 2's HUD which was console centric yet Oblivion worked out extremely well on both PC and 360 using almost the same exact set-up.

No, it didn't work out well....it was merely successful. The GUI in Oblivion screamed console, and was inferior to the Morrowind GUI in every way.

He's 14 and they are worried about him seeing porn? If he's normal, by that age, he should have at least reached 2nd base...and more then likely seen others hit grand slams via the internet, his father's "magazines" in the sock drawer, national geographic, or torrentspy.

Oh, my poor baby! How dare they taint your innocent young mind!

14...hahahaha. There was a time when 14 year olds were having babies...

Oh shit, wait...they still are!

No he shouldnt. The whole culture is completely screwed up now. As your evidence of it. 14 year olds should not be "getting to second base". Nor kissing or anything else of the sort. Nor should they be viewing porn on the internet, nor finding their dads porn under the bed.

Its time to put and end to the cultural mudslide into perversion and debauchery.

when 14 year olds were having babies they were getting married for life and living in a much more responsible and family oriented culture.

It was also a time when the life expectancy was about 30.

which is totally different than all the completely out of control sexual perversion going on today.


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The GUI in Oblivion screamed console, and was inferior to the Morrowind GUI in every way.

Fortunately BTmod came around in less than a week or two. I don't even think I played Oblivion for more than an hour without it.

And this Bioshock buzz is amusing. Based on pre-release enthusiasm it's going to do much better than SS2 from its first week of sales alone. Do right by the keyboard/mouse like with SS2, Irrational, and I'll buy two copies!

That spong article is perhaps the worst example of Internet 'journalism' I have ever seen. Do people even have to finish high school to get a job at these places anymore?

And as for the sex/age thing: of course there's going to far, and of course we have a far too permissive society. But you're fighting a losing battle. It's pretty much proven that the more perverse a society is, the more perverse it will become. We're already well down the path - just listen to top-40 music.

No he shouldnt. The whole culture is completely screwed up now. As your evidence of it. 14 year olds should not be "getting to second base". Nor kissing or anything else of the sort. Nor should they be viewing porn on the internet, nor finding their dads porn under the bed.

Its time to put and end to the cultural mudslide into perversion and debauchery.

Morality Police! Morality Police! Our view should be everyone's view!



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Morality Police! Morality Police! Our view should be everyone's view!

'Cause everyone knows morality is entirely relative; there is no right or wrong, good or evil, and the whole field of ethics is merely a collection of "views" with no way to judge between them.

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Relativism is a logically bankrupt idea, and has been demonstrably so at least since Socrates. The statement "truth is relative" is self-defeating. For truth to be relative, it must be objectively true that truth is relative, a self-contradictory statement if there ever was one. Also consider that in order for such a statement to be true it must also be not true, depending on the perception of one who considers it. Therefore, for one person, truth may not be relative at all and for him it would be true to say "Truth is not relative, but objective". The case for relativism just goes down hill from here, e.g. two plus two ALWAYS AND OBJECTIVELY equals four.

If relativism is a false god, then, at some level, there is truth to be had about what is good and what is evil, and by extension what is a good way to live and what is a bad way to live. There is no more important question to mankind than how one ought to live. If there is an answer to be had to that question, as the possibility for objective truth suggests, then it behooves us to seek out an answer if we are to be responsible human beings.

Therefore, foolishness does not lie in making a claim as to how one ought to live, but in brushing off the making of such a claim as foolish. To claim that no one should be able to say what is moral and what is not, is merely an excuse not to think and evaluate.

As for Hellbinder's statement, I think there is some truth to what he says, although probably for vastly different reasons than he does. Sex is, by it's very nature, a tremendously seductive thing, with a huge impact on what people say and do. It therefore has the potential to distract us from potentially more important things. Human beings are certainly capable of far more than the practices of animals, i.e. sex. When humans allow sex to be the prime mover in their lives, they limit themselves to an essentially bestial existence. While perhaps most people don't seem to be capable of much more than that, think about how many people are but never fulfill their potential. Consider for a moment how many young women think of nothing but enhancing their own sex appeal. They do so, going back to Hellbinder's point, because from a very early age they are bombarded with sexuality, such that, as they mature and develop, sexual attractiveness is the only virtue they know. That is a tragedy, and perhaps if you stopped to think a little bit, rather than just dismiss all moralizing as foolishness, you would see why.

hellbinder go listen to your christian power ballads and play your derek smart games, calm down and try not to get your panties in a bunch

You think he listens to Stryper?



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"Morality Police! Morality Police! Our view should be everyone's view!"

It's funny how any discussion of moral turpitude, responsibility, or growing up out of adolescence is greeted with this tiresome party-boy catcall. What a ridiculous world: people who are in favor of conducting yourself in a civil manner, having dignity, and living a responsible life are considered 'backwards' and 'antiquated' while asshats like you are the role models for kids. Back dat ass up! Back it up! Let's engage in simulated intercourse on the dance floor!

Interesting view of it.

If relativism is a false god, then, at some level, there is truth to be had about what is good and what is evil, and by extension what is a good way to live and what is a bad way to live. There is no more important question to mankind than how one ought to live. If there is an answer to be had to that question, as the possibility for objective truth suggests, then it behooves us to seek out an answer if we are to be responsible human beings.

Therefore, foolishness does not lie in making a claim as to how one ought to live, but in brushing off the making of such a claim as foolish. To claim that no one should be able to say what is moral and what is not, is merely an excuse not to think and evaluate.

its interesting that you percieve a small joke about morality run amok as some claim that "no one should be able to say what is moral and what is not".. but then i suppose if you didnt jump to extreme conclusions your little sophomoric rant wouldnt have anything to decry

relativism isnt a "false god" - its a fact of life. subjectivity is inherently relative to the person in question. thats why opinions differ. morality is also relative to a particular culture, for example in many arabian countries it is immoral for a woman to expose her face. "right" and "wrong" can be relative values based on morality, however there should also be a case made for personal conscience which is an internal, feeling based accordance to particular actions.. unlike morality which is enforced from the outside, in a societal structure.

but then again moral absolutism is not new at all.. you find this kind of "it has to be black and white - there is no grey" philosophy amongst all kinds of military people, political pundits, church goers, etc... pretty much anyone that worships the heirarchical structure based on human territorial conquest and tribal organization.. people who would rather be told what to do without question, and/or have others do what they tell them without question

also, the lack of knowledge about sexuality, and sexual phenomena, chemicals, processes, etc. etc. is so prevalent and pervasive that prudishness itself can never hope to remedy, altho indulgence in base instinctual need for procreation doesnt do anything for it either.

mankind is still very much in the dark ages, no matter how "technologically advanced" they imagine themselves to be

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