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The following statement is logically valid and therefore true and factual, according to basic logic:

SMA is gay or; SMA is a woman or SMA is a transvestite.
SMA is not a transvestite.
There for SMA is gay or SMA is a woman.

No, it is logically fallacious because you have created a false dilemma with the first premise of your syllogism. If the premise is fallacious then so is the syllogism.

Logic is just a tool, and it can be manipulated in anyway, just as anything else.

And when it is manipulated beyond the constraints of the rules of logic it becomes fallacious and no longer valid.

Logic, by it's very nature, when correctly applied can only be true. When it appears to suggest something that is empirically not true there is a fallacy at work somewhere in the syllogism or argument.

Saying there is a reasoned truth based off of your rules of logic (your rules of a way of thinking) about morality is different; that does not make it correct, only correct by what your definition of correct is....not the "universes" definition.

They arn't my rules though. You are making the assumption that only empirically based knowledge is capable of being a law of the universe. Logic however permeates the laws of the universe. That's what makes Science so enchanting: discovering how ordered and logical our universe really is. Scientific progress is entirely dependent upon their being rules of logic. If logic does not exist then neither does our understanding of the universe.

Think of it this way: the laws of the universe are human discoveries, not creations. Logic is also a human discovery, not a construct. Otherwise logic would not exist in the laws of the universe, and it would not be so consistently true.

I honestly do not understand how a scientist could say that logic is merely a construct. Your job is to discover the unchanging and eternal in our universe. That unchanging and eternal is logical. I do not understand how you could be exposed to the logic of the universe everyday and then say that there is nothing inherently logical about the universe, and logic is just a subjective construct of man.

It is not only very illogical, but down right silly to say it is inherently infallible because the rules of your logic say it is not

And only because logic is still a developing field. We are talking about the very edge of pure reason, afterall.

I probably apply it more then you in my study of chemistry

Try studying an ancient language sometime. There's a reason why Latin and Greek have been considered the ideal tool for developing a concise and logical mind.

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