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Re: Crysis
Jan 1, 2007, 05:21
Flo
 
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Re: Crysis Jan 1, 2007, 05:21
Jan 1, 2007, 05:21
 Flo
 
Good for me that Crysis is heading to the 360 so I dont have to upgrade my pc with 1000$ hardware.
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Re: Crysis
Jan 1, 2007, 01:07
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Re: Crysis Jan 1, 2007, 01:07
Jan 1, 2007, 01:07
 
Parallel development is GREAT for publishers and developers but it's NEVER a good thing for players.

Well, it's good for console players, since cross-platform games are always catered towards them. Not so good for PC gamers. Cross-developed PC games are lucky if they don't get the short end of the stick.

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Crysis
Dec 31, 2006, 14:05
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Crysis Dec 31, 2006, 14:05
Dec 31, 2006, 14:05
 
Crap! I had pointed to Crytek as an example of a company that could still make a PC game without compromising it for XBox 360's lower tech and dumbing it down for the Box's audience. Sure, it'd come to a console someday but they really were going to make it the very best PC game they possibly could first.

Crap.

I know, the article isn't definitive and they're not saying they're doing parallel development, but still, if true it's got to be influencing their design. Parallel development is GREAT for publishers and developers but it's NEVER a good thing for players.

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Re: No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 11:09
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Re: No subject Dec 31, 2006, 11:09
Dec 31, 2006, 11:09
 
Yeah you wait until HDTV gets a higher penetration. Personally i enjoy seeing what improvements new technology brings so i'm allready into HDTV, and there is indeed a significant difference in detail and clarity. Wheither it's worth a shitload of money or not is obviously up to the individual user. Same as with HIFI you don't miss it until you've had it but when you go back and listen to old recordings (or 80's production CD's for that matter) the diffrence is obvious.

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Re: No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 11:02
Enahs
 
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Re: No subject Dec 31, 2006, 11:02
Dec 31, 2006, 11:02
 Enahs
 
Both offer nothing better than an increased picture, nowhere near as increased as the jump from analog to digital.

You are right, nowhere near. It is many factors increased better.

And I agree that saturation for HDTVs is not very high yet. Though, LCD tvs where the number one seller this holiday season, many of which would be HD.

But if consumers are not pushing for it and interested in it, it will take forever. Having a HD dvd format is good for consumers, having 2 is stupid.

And from someone who has 2 HD tvs and ~30 HD channels, HD is SO freakin nice.

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Re: No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 07:53
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Re: No subject Dec 31, 2006, 07:53
Dec 31, 2006, 07:53
 
I don't buy many dvd's any more, mostly rent. SO I'll get a PS3, play games, rent movies, and if HD DVD wins out I'll have had my fun anyhow and buy a what will then be a cheap player 2 years down the road.

It'll be a long, protracted war, but I give a pyrric victory to Blu-ray.

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Re: No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 06:36
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Re: No subject Dec 31, 2006, 06:36
Dec 31, 2006, 06:36
 
Pfft! I'm really looking forward to renting Blu-Ray movies. I heard the show "24" is shot in HD, but you can only watch "24" HD content when it's on the air! That's messed up. You buy the DVDs and..... nothing. Still standard definition. Blech!

If I'm wrong about this, please correct me, cause i wanna see 24 in HD.
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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii
Dec 31, 2006, 01:57
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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii Dec 31, 2006, 01:57
Dec 31, 2006, 01:57
 
Don't think I've ever heard of Hardcore Gamers being referred to as Heavy Gamers (though, one could argue that hardcore gamers tend to be rather heavy).

Pish posh. It's just semantics. But I do agree I'd like to see what criteria they are using for their statistical information.

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Re: No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 01:05
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Re: No subject Dec 31, 2006, 01:05
Dec 31, 2006, 01:05
 
I say, plain old DVD wins! The majority of consumers will continue to favor DVDs for a long time.

Gotta agree. As I keep saying, a new format is for the benefit of the media producers, not the consumers. Consumers enjoy cheap DVDs. Consumers are not ready for a new format. They'd rather wait until HDTV has a higher penetration rate, then get a better format. We should have skipped both of these. Both offer nothing better than an increased picture, nowhere near as increased as the jump from analog to digital.

But media producers get added security, as well as added revenue streams. DVD sales have declined because the back catalogs are mostly saturated. Most people inclined to buy The Godfather on DVD have already done so. But release a new version on HDDVD and you'll get people to buy it again, and you'll push many of those on the fence to jump.



And for the record, HDDDVD has a nice lead at the moment:
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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii
Dec 31, 2006, 01:05
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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii Dec 31, 2006, 01:05
Dec 31, 2006, 01:05
 
That article needs to update their lingo. Don't think I've ever heard of Hardcore Gamers being referred to as Heavy Gamers (though, one could argue that hardcore gamers tend to be rather heavy). In addition, where do they come up with these statistics? How do they establish whether or not you are a Heavy Gamer? Do they conduct phone surveys asking "Do you play videogames? If so, do you play games for at least five hours a week and spend at least $60 on games a year?"

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No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 00:45
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No subject Dec 31, 2006, 00:45
Dec 31, 2006, 00:45
 
just curious, but has anything come out of TB's mouth that doesn't make him sound like a shill for Sony?

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Re: No subject
Dec 31, 2006, 00:20
nin
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Re: No subject Dec 31, 2006, 00:20
Dec 31, 2006, 00:20
nin
 
Remember, Betamax was the superior videotape medium also. Funny how I don't see them around anymore.

I was about to post that and you beat me to it.


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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii
Dec 30, 2006, 23:49
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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii Dec 30, 2006, 23:49
Dec 30, 2006, 23:49
 
By "heavy gamers" I thought they were talking about overweight gamers. And I was expecting the article to explain how they like the exercise they get with the Wii. But thats not it at all.

Heh.. I thought exactly the same thing when I read the headline.

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Re: No subject
Dec 30, 2006, 23:04
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Re: No subject Dec 30, 2006, 23:04
Dec 30, 2006, 23:04
 
I agree with MMORPGHarbingerOfDeath. Nobody I know is planning on buying HDDVD or BlueRay. It's just not worth the money. TV, player, and all the new discs. No thanks.


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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii
Dec 30, 2006, 22:55
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Re: Heavy gamers more interested in Wii Dec 30, 2006, 22:55
Dec 30, 2006, 22:55
 
By "heavy gamers" I thought they were talking about overweight gamers. And I was expecting the article to explain how they like the exercise they get with the Wii. But thats not it at all.

Oh well.
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Re: No subject
Dec 30, 2006, 22:37
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Re: No subject Dec 30, 2006, 22:37
Dec 30, 2006, 22:37
 
Remember, Betamax was the superior videotape medium also. Funny how I don't see them around anymore.

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Re: No subject
Dec 30, 2006, 22:07
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Re: No subject Dec 30, 2006, 22:07
Dec 30, 2006, 22:07
 
I say, plain old DVD wins! The majority of consumers will continue to favor DVDs for a long time. First because of price, second because you need a HD tv (properly configured) to benefit (how about some more damn HD stations too), and third even "the amazing picture clarity", to quote daisy duke, isn't going to be enough to convince joe consumer to make the same kind of jump that was made from VHS (and those bulky "be kind, rewind" tapes) to DVD. It's going to be a long war, with both formats likely lingering on for the tech elite to play with.
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Re: No subject
Dec 30, 2006, 21:51
Enahs
 
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Re: No subject Dec 30, 2006, 21:51
Dec 30, 2006, 21:51
 Enahs
 
BluRay and HDDVD have the same general amount of support, in reality.

Some have a few exclusive studios, but overall the support is the same. Both on the movie side and on the tech side.

It is irrelevant which format is the superior tech speaking, as it is the consumer who decides.

And for proably ~95% of the things, that extra bitrate will not matter, and so what will the average consumer pick; a less then $500 player, or a player that cost right around $1000. Also point of fact, HDDVDs movies on average are costing less then BluRay.


All you said is rubbish, because it has no real impact on who wins or loses. It will be the consumer who decides. And while I like BluRay better and would prefer to not have this format war, I think HDDVD will win.



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No subject
Dec 30, 2006, 21:16
TB
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No subject Dec 30, 2006, 21:16
Dec 30, 2006, 21:16
TB
 
Well lets see whats rubbish?

The only major studio who doesnt support bluray is Universal, thats well known... apple and dells support is also well known. Panasonic was one of the first to make a bluray drive and is working on a new set of consumer lvl products. Sony is an obvious one as I said before.... so all thats fine

BluRay having more quality? Well lets see.... same codecs as HDDVD but almost 2x the space which means higher bitrates which adds to less artifacts, more quality. So thats also fine...

Seems the only thing which is rubbish is people who have this weird personal grudge against a company they've probably had no dealings with except perhaps owning a piece of electronics once.

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Re: No subject
Dec 30, 2006, 20:58
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Dec 30, 2006, 20:58
 
What he said.

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