Into the Black

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Re: No subject
Dec 14, 2006, 11:44
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Dec 14, 2006, 11:44
 
I think the fact that she was underage wuold nullify the contract? Not sure. I dont' agree, as I think she should be held accountable for her actions.

Thing is, this isn't an either-or case... they should both be held accountable. The girl for being drunk and stupid, and the video maker for knowing damn well that the girls in question are A) not in a state of mind to make a sound contract, B) likely to be underage.

Throw out the girl's case for being assinine; she should've been more responsible. Then toss the video maker into jail for underage porn and child exploitation.

And yes, I know, the legal system won't do either one; instead the ultimate outcome will be that the girl was underage and thus unable to make a valid contract (the intoxication is irrelevant), and the video maker will be let off because he was under the "reasonable assumption" (my ass) that the girl was of legal age to sign a binding contract.

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Dec 14, 2006, 10:58
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Re: No subject Dec 14, 2006, 10:58
Dec 14, 2006, 10:58
 
The guy was a security guard at an event who helped her back to her room and then (by his version of events) had sex with her.

Guilty.

But they flashed their tits...how exactly are they being taken advantage of? They also lied about their age in order to even appear on the video.

Didn't read the article, since he has been in trouble numerous times, but I think the fact that she was underage wuold nullify the contract? Not sure. I dont' agree, as I think she should be held accountable for her actions.

Does this mean if she would have gotten into a car and killed her friends that she would have been let off the hook? Think about it. Just because she was drunk doesn't make her a victim (in this case).

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American Red Cross <3 Ninjas & Pirates
Dec 14, 2006, 05:31
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Dec 14, 2006, 05:31
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Dec 14, 2006, 04:37
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Dec 14, 2006, 04:37
 
While I'm largely in agreement, there was an interesting case recently in the UK where a university student claimed to have been raped by a guy when she was drunk. The guy was a security guard at an event who helped her back to her room and then (by his version of events) had sex with her. She claimed she was so drunk she couldn't have possibly consented, whereas the guy claimed they had consensual sex.

The judge said that drunken consent was still consent, which caused considerable debate at the time.

Clearly this is not quite the same thing, but would this "they got drunk, it's their fault" logic still apply? This was a High Court case, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't an appeal making its way up the chain somewhere, to clarify the law. But it's an interesting one.

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Dec 14, 2006, 03:24
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Dec 14, 2006, 03:24
 
I should really throw that T-shirt out, it's rather smelly...

Yeah, I've seen plenty of long faces come strolling out of the frat houses on Sunday morning, jackets worn in reasonably warm weather to hide the before night's effects. Heh, I've done plenty of puking on my own in the barracks, but the sorority and frats houses must have breweries underneath them for as much they get drunk at IU.

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Dec 14, 2006, 03:15
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Dec 14, 2006, 03:15
nin
 
Believe me I'm not Amish.


And if you were, I doubt you'd be posting here.


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Dec 14, 2006, 02:19
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Dec 14, 2006, 02:19
 
Believe me I'm not Amish. I drank like a fish when I was in college myself, and i still drink a fair ammount. I also know women who got taken advantage of while they were drunk who aren't the same people when they're drunk as when they're sober.

Nobody should be able to write a business contract when they're drunk. Whether it's for flashing their boobs or for buying a car- anything. I think if somebody's drunk they're likely to get taken advantage of in a situation like that don't you? A contract signed under those conditions should be rendered void.

Peter Boyle will be missed, he was a funny guy.

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Dec 14, 2006, 01:31
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Dec 14, 2006, 01:31
 
Young drunk and naive doesn't mean stupid. Women can't drink as much as men, but generally don't know their limits when they're young. It's pretty pathetic to take the side of a guy who was filming drunk women's boobs so he could sell them for jerk-off videos.

Did the girls get in trouble for underage drinking? I'm sure it's not the first time they have had alcohol.

Unless you're Amish or some shit, most people who go to college and who are active socially are generally testing their tolerance to alcohol just about *every weekend*. Been there, done that, got the puke-stained T-shirt to prove it. Hell, go on MySpace and you'll find plenty of pictures of people boozin' it up.

[edit]... I should really throw that T-shirt out, it's rather smelly...


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Re: Peter Boyle
Dec 14, 2006, 00:59
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Dec 14, 2006, 00:59
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But they flashed their tits...how exactly are they being taken advantage of? They also lied about their age in order to even appear on the video. If they weren't responsible, level-headed, or smart enough to weigh the pros/cons of what could possibly happen from appearing nude and completely sloshed and then having the videos being circulated amongst millions of people, then I say they reap what they sow.

Exactly. And for the record, I'm somewhat of a prohibitionist. My brother drinks (and smokes enough dope) for the both of us.

Bottom line... If you do not want to put yourself in a position where your decision making process would be impaired, don't drink, you fucking twat. And to BOOT, she was four years too young to even be ABLE to drink (stateside of course). And somehow somebody ELSE is to blame? What, did he force her to get drunk before or after the video was shot?
It's entirely her fault.

[edit] And don't think I'm siding with underage porn. Laws are laws. He should be punished for that much, but the stupid drunk slut is entirely responsible for any moral objections caused from the porno she willfully agreed to have filmed. It's not like he slipped her a roofy.

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Re: Peter Boyle
Dec 14, 2006, 00:34
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Dec 14, 2006, 00:34
nin
 
I absolutely adored tha man! great actor and I'll miss him.

Well put. Talented guy...shame to lose him.

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Peter Boyle
Dec 14, 2006, 00:32
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Dec 14, 2006, 00:32
 
I absolutely adored tha man! great actor and I'll miss him. I still say his best role ever was a Lazlo in 'Where the Buffalo Roam'.

Thanks for the good times, Peter!


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Dec 14, 2006, 00:15
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Dec 14, 2006, 00:15
 
I'm not siding with 'Girls Gone Wild' because the videos are mostly done in poor taste and don't appeal to what I find attractive. But they flashed their tits...how exactly are they being taken advantage of? They also lied about their age in order to even appear on the video. If they weren't responsible, level-headed, or smart enough to weigh the pros/cons of what could possibly happen from appearing nude and completely sloshed and then having the videos being circulated amongst millions of people, then I say they reap what they sow.

People should not have to fall back on old double-standards to win at life after willingly setting themselves up to fail.

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Dec 13, 2006, 23:38
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Dec 13, 2006, 23:38
 
Young drunk and naive doesn't mean stupid. Women can't drink as much as men, but generally don't know their limits when they're young. It's pretty pathetic to take the side of a guy who was filming drunk women's boobs so he could sell them for jerk-off videos.

It's probably more than likely that women you know or are related to could be taken advantage of this way.

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Dec 13, 2006, 23:05
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"It does not take a very brave man to go out and corner a girl in the middle of spring break who had four drinks," Smoak told Francis.

But it does take a very stupid girl completely deserving of whatever "mental anguish" she is caused.

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