Riley:
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=70410&boardid=1&id=340822&view=flatold&start=20

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if people would just ignore him....

but apparently thats asking too much.

Or... we get HIM to ignore US. There will always be a new user along that will read his posts and respond, with everyone suffering the fallout. However, if everytime he posts we reveal him for the imbecile that he is then he may stop posting and everybody wins. He's like a naughty child that's gone too far - smacking is no longer an option so it's time to put his face in the blender.

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Remember: Riley has autism. He has trouble communicating, and in an overstimulating
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if people would just ignore him....

but apparently thats asking too much.

Isn't it funny how Smiley Fitz actually propogates arguments by replying to people who are simply trying to get a rise out of him...

He's like some sort of paradoxial troll. Or a dog chasing its own tail.

Ok so the first episode came out in June of this year (or was it late may...) and the last episode is supposed to be out by Christmas 07?

....so seems logical that valve would shoot for half way between those dates for a release of episode 2 and that is...


March.... (or it could be febuary if you counted June of 06 in the schedule but only a fool would give Valve the benefit of the doubt...)


So Febuary is probably still pretty optimistic and we should all plan for a march release.

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It's no bluff, but the reason you can't understand it is because you are an idiot.

What a convincing arguement.

I guess you will just have to settle for being the "forum fool."

You accuse ME of being the forum fool? Oh, the irony.

NEway, I'll let you get back to fisting your father.

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Remember: Riley has autism. He has trouble communicating, and in an overstimulating
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You didn't make it clear what you referring to

In that same post I wrote "Steam's bloated size, mandatory use, and its unreliability, inflexibility, and restrictiveness which prevent users from playing their games how and right when they want have never been fixed." Therefore it was abundantly clear to all but an imbecile like you I was referring to that when I wrote "Steam is fundamentally flawed because of how Valve has implemented it, and if it weren't, you wouldn't have had even that one problem that prevented you from playing the games for which you paid." Given that you previously couldn't tell the difference between "Riley Pizt" and "Riley Pitz", it is no surprise that you don't understand what you read.

you can't bluff your way out of it with me.

It's no bluff, but the reason you can't understand it is because you are an idiot.

We can all see the mistake you made.

"We?!" LOL! Did the idiots of this forum elect you their spokesman, or do you have a multiple personality disorder?

Denies customers access to their games? Nope. It switches to offline mode if it can't connect to the internet.

Actually it's not that simple, moron, which is the source of the problem and exactly why Beamer and others could not play their games. I have written the detailed reasons why Steam's so-called "offline mode" is so flawed many times before on this forum, but since you have such a poor memory and since your reading comprehension is so poor, here it is again.

Steam's offline mode is flawed because:

1. Offline mode requires that the user had successfully logged into Steam previously and had chosen to store his login credentials on his PC the last time he ran Steam. That is a huge security risk especially on a shared or family PC since a Steam account can contain credit card/payment information. It also means that only the last used account can launch offline mode, so on a shared PC other users will be out of luck. It also means that if the user ever unchecks the box to store his login credentials, he won't be able to use offline mode.

2. Offline mode cannot be manually chosen by the user. Only Steam itself determines when it will enter offline mode, and because its method of doing so is flawed, it prevents customers from being able to play the games for which they paid.

3. Steam won't enter offline mode unless the Steam network is totally unreachable. If the network is just too busy and can't service the user (as often happens when new games are released or updated), Steam won't enter offline mode.

4. Steam takes too long to determine if its network is unreachable. Depending on the number and type of network adapters installed on the PC, it can take several minutes or more.

5. Steam won't enter offline mode unless there is at least one functioning network adapter in the PC. What this means is that a user can't force Steam into offline mode simply by using Windows' "disable" command on the one network adapter in a PC. The user actually has to pull the network cable or otherwise physically disable the connectivity of the network adapter for Steam to proceed with its offline mode check.

6. Steam won't enter offline mode or go ahead and launch a game even if the user doesn't want to download an update that is available for a game. If Steam is not already in offline mode when a user launches a game, the update must be downloaded and installed for the game to actually run.

Of course Valve could easily fix all of these problems by allowing offline mode to be manually chosen by the user and to function regardless of whether the user last saved his Steam login credentials on the PC. Valve won't do it because it is so afraid that someone might be able to play the games already installed on the PC without paying for them and because Valve wants to control if and how customers can play their games. Meanwhile those who use a hacked Steam client can play any Steam game for free without such restrictions.

That's it... as soon as you're not smart enough to have a proper comeback you just resort to childish insults. You really are a cocksucker. I hope you get SARS, have your left leg amputated (below the knee) and die a slow, agonising death over the next 27½ years of your "life". Then I hope your remains get mistaken for excrement, buried with toxic waste and your corpse is reanimated, whilst you're made to live out eternity in a semi-conscious state of decay! Oh, and your mother is a fat slag.

LOL! Oh the irony is too much. It's too bad you weren't born a few hundred years ago. You would have made one hell of a court jester. I guess you will just have to settle for being the "forum fool."

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However, since that wasn't explicit enough

Exactly, that's my point. You didn't make it clear what you referring to - you can try to cover it up all you like but you made a mistake. Unfortunately, for you, you can't bluff your way out of it with me. We can all see the mistake you made... the sooner you stop trying to deny it the better.

Steam is fundamentally flawed in that it denies customers' access to their games

Denies customers access to their games? Nope. It switches to offline mode if it can't connect to the internet. Still, we can expect dear Smiley to be right all of the time... or even ANY of the time.

That would be a first for you. Unfortunately you are simply deluded as usual.

That's it... as soon as you're not smart enough to have a proper comeback you just resort to childish insults. You really are a cocksucker. I hope you get SARS, have your left leg amputated (below the knee) and die a slow, agonising death over the next 27½ years of your "life". Then I hope your remains get mistaken for excrement, buried with toxic waste and your corpse is reanimated, whilst you're made to live out eternity in a semi-conscious state of decay! Oh, and your mother is a fat slag.

When you stop being childish perhaps we can have a civilised discussion.

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No!

Happened to me once. I don't know why.

Other than that I've played Steam games while on airplanes and trains. No network connection possible.

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Sure networks fail, but when they do they should always fail in favor of the customer NOT Valve. If Steam were designed that way, Beamer and every other Steam user would always be able to play their games the instant they run them. The problem is simply that Valve does not trust them and therefore won't allow Steam to work that way.

Oh, it'll work for me, but I had to have had auto-login enabled and then it takes a friggin long time to load up. Sometimes upwards of ten minutes before it finally gets around to executing the game, whereas if access to Steam were possible it would be instanious.

You said Steam was fundamentally flawed because if it wasn't he wouldn't have even had that one problem; therefore I interpreted what you said correctly

Wow, you are dense. What I wrote was "Steam is fundamentally flawed because of how Valve has implemented it, and if it weren't, you wouldn't have had even that one problem that prevented you from playing the games for which you paid." However, since that wasn't explicit enough for you despite my devoting preceding paragraphs to the subject, I will spell it out this time. Steam is fundamentally flawed in that it denies customers' access to their games, and if it weren't fundamentally flawed in that way, Beamer would not have experienced the one problem that he did. Now do you get it, genius?

Sorry, I thought

That would be a first for you. Unfortunately you are simply deluded as usual. Hopefully one day you will actually be able to think.

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Sorry Smiley but you're wrong. You said Steam was fundamentally flawed because if it wasn't he wouldn't have even had that one problem; therefore I interpreted what you said correctly - it is your problem whether you meant something different. I guess, judging by your rant, that you were trying to refer to the offline-mode functionality and the way it has been executed. But, that is NOT what you said. You can throw a shit-fit but it won't change your mistake.

Given how you piss in your pants and throw a temper tantrum every time I criticize Valve, you are the one with the serious issues.

Sorry, I thought YOU pissed YOUR pants everytime I defend Valve. Still, I'm not worried because you have demonstrated your unreasonable nature on too many occasions for anyone to actually take you seriously. You're a slimey hell-spore and you smell like a half-digested scrotum. I would welcome the extinction of the human race just to spare the rest of the universe from your irrational hatred of Valve. I hope you get impaled upon a stick, bleed for 13 days, then get eaten by a vampire crow and made to live for eternity in the maternity ward of your local hospital.

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Whatever... I think I'll just enjoy playing Valve's games and the moment they make the hassle of Steam more than the enjoyment I get from it then I'll stop buying them. Can't say fairer than that.

So any product that has even one flaw is fundamentally flawed?

You have written a lot of stupid statements on this forum, but you have really outdone yourself this time. Learn to read. I wrote nothing of the sort. I am not talking about a single flaw or even some programming bugs. In addition to its reliability problems (which are the result of Valve refusing to spend enough money on capacity and fault tolerance) Steam is fundamentally flawed because it is designed to give Valve control not the customer. Valve determines when and if customes can play their games. Valve determines that customers must update them. From the customer's perspective, that is a fundamental flaw because it puts them at the mercy of Valve to determine if, when, and how they can play the games for which they paid.

reading a few complaints on some forums doesn't give you the ability to quantify the percentage of people with problems.

The percentage is irrelevant. A design flaw is a design flaw. How frequently it happens doesn't help the customers who can't play their games because of it.

So whilst you may like to condemn Valve for the problem one person had on one occasion, it's just unreasonable.

Look moron, I am not talking about a single problem on one occasion. And if you weren't so obtuse or a Valve sycophant, you would see that. Plus, it's not as if Valve doesn't know how to fix these problems. Sure networks fail, but when they do they should always fail in favor of the customer NOT Valve. If Steam were designed that way, Beamer and every other Steam user would always be able to play their games the instant they run them. The problem is simply that Valve does not trust them and therefore won't allow Steam to work that way.

you have some serious issues

LOL! Given how you piss in your pants and throw a temper tantrum every time I criticize Valve, you are the one with the serious issues.

a waste of your talent.

Wow, you got something right for a change. You are a waste of my time and talent.

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A couple of Valve's games are fun

Smiley admitting that Valve's games are fun? It appears we're getting somewhere.

I bash Valve when it is deserved.

Ooops... back to being delusional.

Steam is fundamentally flawed because of how Valve has implemented it, and if it weren't, you wouldn't have had even that one problem that prevented you from playing the games for which you paid.

So any product that has even one flaw is fundamentally flawed? Shall we have a look at other "fundamentally flawed" products?:

Windows
Linux
MacOS X
Democracy
Communism
The monarchy
The electoral system
The judicial system
The emergency services
Taxation
The human species
Supermarkets
Cadbury's chocolate
The combustion engine
Airbags
Car bumpers
Tyres
Smiley Fitz
Blue's News
Non-stick frying pans

Hang on, almost every product in existence is fundamentally flawed according to that definition - afterall, most products have an error margin of several percent. So whilst you may like to condemn Valve for the problem one person had on one occasion, it's just unreasonable. Now perhaps you could make a valid point if you had some serious statistics behind you to support it but reading a few complaints on some forums doesn't give you the ability to quantify the percentage of people with problems.

I think your mother smoked a bit too much pot whilst she was pregnant, as you have some serious issues. Perhaps you could convert that hatred of Valve into a determination to reform the political system, as pissing off a few people on Blue's News seems a bit pointless and a waste of your talent.

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Creston's opinion means zilch, or even an negative integer, now that he's admitted to reading and liking the "Left Behind" Christian fantasy novels.

lol. The Book of Revelations for the masses.

This coming from someone that has never had it installed on his PC, uses second-hand information, and hasn't followed the updates.

My knowledge of Steam is primarily from first-hand use although I certainly am aware of others' problems with it. As for updates, the fundamental problems and shortcomings of Steam have never been fixed. Any updates have only addressed minor interface and presentation bugs. Steam's bloated size, mandatory use, and its unreliability, inflexibility, and restrictiveness which prevent users from playing their games how and right when they want have never been fixed. Valve could fix those problems, but it won't because it doesn't trust its customers and wants to control when and whether its customers can play the games for which they paid.

Steam has given me a problem, once, when my internet was down and it wouldn't go into offline mode.

Well you have been fortunate then. However, just because your Dell laptop battery didn't explode doesn't mean that others' won't or haven't. Steam is fundamentally flawed because of how Valve has implemented it, and if it weren't, you wouldn't have had even that one problem that prevented you from playing the games for which you paid.

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I dont think I have ever played a game, read a book, watched a film, watched a sport or heard music worthy of sycophantic devotion. People that take their entertainment that seriously are likely to never get any fun out of it.

Well you may not, but pop media icons have hordes of fan-atics who do, and Valve is one such icon in the PC game industry.

I can think of a whole bunch of video game producers who lie, delay, and provide piss-poor customer service.

I can't. As much as EA is reviled by many who frequent this forum, EA pales in those faults compared to Valve. EA might release some of its games too early, but Valve is even worse because it delays its games ad nauseum and still has to repeatedly patch them to get rid of the bugs or take months or a year to provide more than a handful of maps for its games after release. As for customer service, at least EA has a telephone number customers can call when they have a problem. On two different occasions I have had to get EA to provide me with a replacement CD key for games, and I didn't have to wait days or weeks to get it unlike the experience of Steam users like PiTiFUL below.

Yet none of them attract the sort of sycophantic devotion you seem to have for Valve bashing.

LOL! That statement doesn't even make any sense. I bash Valve when it is deserved. And it is deserved here. The fact is I could have bashed Valve for all of the things others mentioned below, but there was no need to pile on.

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Putting up with Steam

This coming from someone that has never had it installed on his PC, uses second-hand information, and hasn't followed the updates.

Steam has given me a problem, once, when my internet was down and it wouldn't go into offline mode. Other than that it's been a breeze. Convenient, easy, no complaints other than the pricing, and since I now buy Steam games at Best Buy, even that has gone out the window.

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