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Man! It was a thousand degrees here today. At least that's what I think the thermometer was showing before it burst into flames: It was hard to read the way my glasses were melting.

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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 10:40
Enahs
 
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 10:40
Jun 20, 2006, 10:40
 Enahs
 
I don't remember, honestly. I got it right after Doom3 came out, I believe.

I did too actually. But I purposely went for a Prescott. I do not remember why though.


Did you know that 1 lb of yummy delicious ripe strawberries only has 146 calories,36g carbs, 9g fiber,3g protein,1g fat and 475% daily Vit.C? 1 Snickers bar has 280 calories,35g carbs,14g fat.Eat strawberries!
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 10:27
nin
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 10:27
Jun 20, 2006, 10:27
nin
 
Actually, also wait a minute. I have a Prescott P4 3.2 HT’ed running at the 800MHZ. Do you have a Prescott (E model version) or before Prescott? I know they changed things around a little and maybe that could a difference too.

I don't remember, honestly. I got it right after Doom3 came out, I believe.



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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 10:25
Enahs
 
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 10:25
Jun 20, 2006, 10:25
 Enahs
 
edit: To give you an idea...you said you're hits 110? My proc, just sitting at the desktop not being used, runs around 135...

Mine when just surfing the web (like now) is right under 110 (109.7). I have my motherboard set to auto shut down the PC when the CPU temperature hits 142...and when that happens I know to clean it out (and of course it always happens when I am really into the game also). It has only had to shut down on me a couple times as I clean it regularly. But that is also way below the P4’s threshold though (the 142). And yes I am talking Fahrenheit :).

But I also have a big big case with not much in it, just one case fan though. But the airflow through it is great (which is why I have to dust it every 3-4 weeks because it pulls so much damn air through and for some reason dust fucking loves heat sinks).



The room it is in is 78 degrees right now, and I am conservative with the A/C so quite often it gets in the mid 80’s in here but as long as I have a fan blowing on me it is comfortable (when the humidity is good); and I never have a problem when the room is in the mid 80’s either.


*note*

Actually, also wait a minute. I have a Prescott P4 3.2 HT’ed running at the 800MHZ. Do you have a Prescott (E model version) or before Prescott? I know they changed things around a little and maybe that could a difference too.



Did you know that 1 lb of yummy delicious ripe strawberries only has 146 calories,36g carbs, 9g fiber,3g protein,1g fat and 475% daily Vit.C? 1 Snickers bar has 280 calories,35g carbs,14g fat.Eat strawberries!
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 10:06
nin
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 10:06
Jun 20, 2006, 10:06
nin
 
I am using the stock retail heatsink and fan

Same here.


but if I am remembering correctly the first major generation of the HT’ed P4’s first fan and sink was far inferior.

That might explain it...

edit: To give you an idea...you said you're hits 110? My proc, just sitting at the desktop not being used, runs around 135...



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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 10:01
Enahs
 
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 10:01
Jun 20, 2006, 10:01
 Enahs
 
Mine has been a fireball since I installed the thing...the Intel software monitors 2 zones and the proc. One zone is always 10 degrees hotter than the other, and the proc is a fireball. I've added fans, used artic silver, and even upgraded the bios a few times, thinking it wasn't reporting the temps right...

I told you, but no you refuse to believe me (or even the artic silver instructions) and do the dot method. You had to spread didn't you? You had to ruin your heat transfer?

Actually, it sounds like you might have a shitty designed heatsink. I am using the stock retail heatsink and fan, but if I am remembering correctly the first major generation of the HT’ed P4’s first fan and sink was far inferior. I could be remembering something else and applying it here….not sure, but it makes sense.

Along with GOOD case ventilation! Cables tied and out of the way so they do not block airflow, etc etc.


I just hear people talking about how hot their P4’s (especially the 3.2 HT which I have in one system) yet mine runs really damn cool.


Did you know that 1 lb of yummy delicious ripe strawberries only has 146 calories,36g carbs, 9g fiber,3g protein,1g fat and 475% daily Vit.C? 1 Snickers bar has 280 calories,35g carbs,14g fat.Eat strawberries!
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 09:36
nin
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 09:36
Jun 20, 2006, 09:36
nin
 
My 3.2 P4HT only gets over 150 when the far and heatsink is really dirty. It is normally around 108.

You got to dust them regularly!

Mine has been a fireball since I installed the thing...the Intel software monitors 2 zones and the proc. One zone is always 10 degrees hotter than the other, and the proc is a fireball. I've added fans, used artic silver, and even upgraded the bios a few times, thinking it wasn't reporting the temps right...

Seriously, I've got the money set aside, and I'm just waiting for this one to croak, so I can get a better, cooler computer...




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Car flies through roof
Jun 20, 2006, 09:10
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Car flies through roof Jun 20, 2006, 09:10
Jun 20, 2006, 09:10
 
Jeez, that's terrible. And just a little weird. I recall an incident like this one happening a couple years ago, televised. I don't remember where it happened, exactly, but in that case, fortunately, no one was in the path of the wannabe hovercar.

Though, somewhat unrelatedly, I just have to nitpick at "He was a good Christian." Why not just, "He was a good human being?" It's not as though traits/qualities aren't so dissimilar through other cultures, beliefs and whatnot.

Just my tiny rant on that.

Dan =0)

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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 08:57
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 08:57
Jun 20, 2006, 08:57
 
All I know that my computer won't turn on. I do see a green light on my motherboard when PSU is on. PSU won't come on (fans stay dead)

I suspect your MB and/or CPU are toast, but it's easy enough to check to see if it's the PSU -- just jumper the green and black wires together (a metal paperclip works fine for this) and see if it spins up. If it doesn't then replace the PSU first.

If it does, well -- unless you have spare parts that you can swap in, it's nigh impossible to tell if it's the CPU, MB, or memory that died.

Of course, you probably know all of this already.

Oh, and I'm with the chorus that's saying don't count out Intel's next gen chips -- I wouldn't touch a P4 with a 10' pole for a gaming box, but the new chips are looking insanely good.

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Re: Just as hot and a lot colder....
Jun 20, 2006, 08:21
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Re: Just as hot and a lot colder.... Jun 20, 2006, 08:21
Jun 20, 2006, 08:21
 
Monday, June 19, 2006

Jacksonville, Florida: Low 73, High 86
New York City, New York: Low 74, High 88

Man, that sweltering Florida heat! Well, at least we don't have to worry about snow during the winter, just like the equally hot New York, right?

True, but Florida is usually a lot more humid than NY/NJ and that makes a major difference. Sure, we still get humid but you guys are in a whole different league.

It's like when I go to California, even when it's really friggin hot it's not so bad because there's usually 0% humidity. The opposite is said when I go to Florida, as when I step out of the air port it's often like walking into a wall of boiling water.

Personally, I kind of like the snow. In NJ we don't get too much that it's insane like some states, just a few snowfalls per year. A little further north like Boston gets insane as well as the other super-northerly states.



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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 07:04
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 20, 2006, 07:04
Jun 20, 2006, 07:04
 
Thanks!

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Just as hot and a lot colder....
Jun 20, 2006, 07:02
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Just as hot and a lot colder.... Jun 20, 2006, 07:02
Jun 20, 2006, 07:02
 
Monday, June 19, 2006

Jacksonville, Florida: Low 73, High 86
New York City, New York: Low 74, High 88

Man, that sweltering Florida heat! Well, at least we don't have to worry about snow during the winter, just like the equally hot New York, right?


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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 20, 2006, 02:58
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Jun 20, 2006, 02:58
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Brain Drills.
Jun 20, 2006, 00:18
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Brain Drills. Jun 20, 2006, 00:18
Jun 20, 2006, 00:18
 
The guy auctioning those is only about 70 miles from me.


[edit]

I read that little blurb about China wanting to go to the moon and keep thinking back to Deus Ex. In the early part of the game (when recovering the first barrels of Ambrosia) you can read a newspaper talking about an accident with a massdriver the PRC is operating on the moon. Makes me want to play the game again.


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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 19, 2006, 23:13
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 19, 2006, 23:13
Jun 19, 2006, 23:13
 
I just installed a window fan (a dual-fan device).... the room at least feels much cooler than it had about 30 minutes ago. So far, no problems running my music gear.

And now for something completely different...

Anyone have any decent resources for PHP-page-building? I'd like to revamp my site so that it's a bit neater/cleaner, and looks a little spiffier, but not in that Adobe-Flash--widgets-everywhere sort of way. I'm talking about a currently hand-coded-in-Notepad-or-VI site that still uses FRAME and FRAMESET HTML tags.

Thanks in advance!

And, sorry to hear about the system, Ant. Hopefully, in your case, it's just the PSU, thought it doesn't seem so, from the sound of it...

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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 19, 2006, 22:15
Enahs
 
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 19, 2006, 22:15
Jun 19, 2006, 22:15
 Enahs
 
My 3.2 P4HT only gets over 150 when the far and heatsink is really dirty. It is normally around 108.

You got to dust them regularly!


Are you sure you will not be buying Intel nin? The new chips appear to have great performance and run a lot cooler and smoother.

Sucks though ant, hopefully you can get it up and running without too much money!



Did you know that 1 lb of yummy delicious ripe strawberries only has 146 calories,36g carbs, 9g fiber,3g protein,1g fat and 475% daily Vit.C? 1 Snickers bar has 280 calories,35g carbs,14g fat.Eat strawberries!
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 19, 2006, 21:20
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 19, 2006, 21:20
Jun 19, 2006, 21:20
 
Yeah, I have my 2.8 running at 3.0. Needless to say, it gets rather warm. I'd written off Intel too, but if the previews of Conroe are any indication I may end up getting another Intel CPU. Now if only they'd release the damn thing so I can get real side-by-side comparisons and upgrade already!

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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 19, 2006, 21:13
nin
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 19, 2006, 21:13
Jun 19, 2006, 21:13
nin
 
nin: Wow, you too? I thought it was just me. Where do you live? I am in Southern California.

In my case, it's the wonderful (HA!) intel 3.2 HT proc - it runs hotter than hell. It (literally) heats the room it's in, and I have to leave an overhead fan running almost all the time.

I look so forward to the day it croaks...and I won't be buying intel after this, either...



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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 19, 2006, 21:07
Ant
 
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Jun 19, 2006, 21:07
 Ant
 
nin: Wow, you too? I thought it was just me. Where do you live? I am in Southern California.

It's hard to keep this machine cool enough. I don't know what happened. Maybe a fried motherboard, dead video card, or PSU. Who knows. All I know that my computer won't turn on. I do see a green light on my motherboard when PSU is on. PSU won't come on (fans stay dead). I did get that single beep (1 second) from the motherboard and saw my case red and green lights come on for a second (drives and power). I do remember my old 17" CRT monitor went blank black (video loss signal), and my Windows sort of crashed(?) [heard FarCry music playing choppily/laggy). I had to reset (couldn't alt-f4, SSH into my box to kill processes, etc.).
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming
Jun 19, 2006, 20:49
nin
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Re: Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming Jun 19, 2006, 20:49
Jun 19, 2006, 20:49
nin
 
My little room was about 90F degrees. And I think my computer died from the extreme heat (motherboard was 117F degrees and CPU was 157F degrees before playing the gasme -- so must had gotten way hotter).

Shit, mine hits that all the time. I keep hopin it'll fry, so I can buy an amd dual core...

Sorry to hear that, though...



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Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming box!
Jun 19, 2006, 20:29
Ant
 
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Bah, the heat wave killed my gaming box! Jun 19, 2006, 20:29
Jun 19, 2006, 20:29
 Ant
 
Bah, I was playing a single player FarCry mod yesterday evening. My little room was about 90F degrees. And I think my computer died from the extreme heat (motherboard was 117F degrees and CPU was 157F degrees before playing the gasme -- so must had gotten way hotter).

Now, my computer won't power on. Maybe it's the PSU, motherboard, or/and video card is/are busted.
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