Anyone work in an ER at all? We commonly called them donorcycles

You mean there's anything LEFT to donate after such a retard wrecks himself? I figured he'd be completely grinded down to the last bone, including his organs.

Reminds me of a extremely graphic pic I saw on a web site years ago. I'm assuming it was a cycle wreck. The guys entire nose and upper mouth were missing. It was (from top to bottom of his head) eyes, bloody area, and then a tongue and lower teeth...

And there's no way in hell I'm linking it here...



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Anyone work in an ER at all? We commonly called them donorcycles

You mean there's anything LEFT to donate after such a retard wrecks himself? I figured he'd be completely grinded down to the last bone, including his organs.

Creston

Interestingly Gov. Rendell's first act in office was to repeal PA's helmet law. I believe passengers are still required to wear one, but it's optional for the driver.

But you get enough people killed through ineptitude and then people start wanting the government to step in.

Good points, and I don't disagree that it is of course people who demand this intervention that causes it to become law in the first place (thats how our system works after all, for the most part), but there's no reason people can't demand the opposite as well, which is the good thing about our system.

they are also entitled to the same protection the government should afford them as anyone else.

That's assuming we all agree that the role of government is to provide this protection, and many don't. This is one point I agree with Republicans on (traditional ones, not these ass-backwards ones currently in office) in regards to limited government. The federal government should be a limited body, focusing on national defense, and federalism should apply for most if not all other aspects. Insurance is, in my opinion, *NOT* one of these aspects and should be left to the private sector, lassie fare style. Insurance companies who insure frequent and expensive offenders have their rates go up, and lose their business to more efficient companies who are more careful and can offer lower premiums. Of course, there will also be a niche market company for those high offenders, provided they pay the higher premiums. This system works for credit institutions and banks, and yet its not good enough for insurance?

Believe me, I understand your angle, and I totally see that it looks like I was throwing out the "idiots" argument the way people throw around "support the troops" or "don't burn the flag", but I assure you there has been at least some semblance of internal debate over the subject

So yeah, enough of the deep, enthralling discussion of politics on a *gaming* message board (I hate it when discussions go this way)

-DSR

remove insurance liability if you aren't wearing a helmet/seatbelt/etc

Is that not the case? In that case damn straight you should!

I know you're entitled to less in damages if you're not wearing a seatbelt/helmet, but I would be all in favour of removing insurance liability for helmets.

I understand the purpose of insurance, and that legally speaking without statute this wouldn't happen - it's still my fault I hit you, I'm responsible (my insurance is) for the full extent of your damages. But as a massive massive incentive (and still not regulating personal freedom) it's a good option.

Of course, I think seatbelts / helmets should be mandatory at all times (while in a car/bike; not while on the sofa / doing shopping etc :)). But then I live in the UK were we have laws like that.

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legislating personal responsibility is just wrong. It IS a free country, and the idiots are free to be weeded out.

Ok, so in order to do so should we pass laws instead that remove insurance liability if you aren't wearing a helmet/seatbelt/etc? After all, if you're in a crash and survive then why should everyone else have to pay higher insurance rates for your idiocy?

Of course, this too is a slippery slope too, I know that. But personal responsibility cuts both ways.

It never ceases to amaze me how many idiots ride a motorcycle in the United States. I'll see guys riding their bike on the highway here, going 70mph, no helmet, wearing jeans and a tshirt.]

Anyone work in an ER at all? We commonly called them donorcycles.