Taunting Tragedy?

Prosecutors link taunts to stabbing in the Chicago Tribune (registration required) describes a murder that may have been triggered by taunts hurled while playing a video game (thanks Mike Martinez). This previous report on the Trib (registration required) has more of the gory details on the story, which has also been picked up by the UPI. According to the articles an 11-year old boy died from stab wounds after taunts were exchanged during a session of some unnamed video game. What's not clear is how the taunting ties into the stabbing, as the earlier story says the 16 year-old who was arrested for allegedly stabbing the younger boy was also alleged to be the one who was delivering, rather than receiving the taunts. The later story repeats much of the earlier story verbatim, but omits some of those confusing details along with some descriptions of the evidence, so it may be that some of the finer points that were reported at first have since come into question.
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No subject
Mar 19, 2006, 16:33
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Mar 19, 2006, 16:33
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And for the millionth time...

Where were the parents?



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Here we
Mar 19, 2006, 16:50
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Here we Mar 19, 2006, 16:50
Mar 19, 2006, 16:50
 
go...

*sigh*


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Mar 19, 2006, 16:50
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Sad
Mar 19, 2006, 17:35
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Mar 19, 2006, 17:35
 
The world is a messed up place. We all see it everyday. Mostly we ignore it...

But the crazies will be sure to jump on the "video/PC games made him do it" bandwagon. Which just continues the whole messed up cycle.

I'll bet we hear from Hillary Clinton, Jack Thompson, one or both of the Liebermans... and a few more. I can't wait to hear their words of wisdom.

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No subject
Mar 19, 2006, 17:36
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Mar 19, 2006, 17:36
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"Yes, your honor, I was a mass murderer and evil dictator... but that was just because my father used to beat me!

At videogames, that is."

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oh shit!!
Mar 19, 2006, 17:48
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oh shit!! Mar 19, 2006, 17:48
Mar 19, 2006, 17:48
 
and we all know that videogames cause the worst kind of murderous taunting

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Mar 19, 2006, 17:59
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Hardly any details yet, hopefully the video game aspect will not be blown out of proportion by the media (a faint hope, I know).

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Mar 19, 2006, 19:28
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Mar 19, 2006, 19:28
 

And for the millionth time...

Where were the parents?

in conference with a trial attorney hoping to fill the now large hole in their lives with cash.

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Mar 19, 2006, 20:35
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Mar 19, 2006, 20:35
 

Tragic, senseless, and a sign of the times. Where were the parents, indeed.


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Mar 19, 2006, 22:22
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I think it's more likely that the 'finer points' were omitted because it's harder to pin the blame on a video game if the killer was also the taunter.

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Same shit, different medium....
Mar 19, 2006, 22:44
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Same shit, different medium.... Mar 19, 2006, 22:44
Mar 19, 2006, 22:44
 
The exact same thing happens every day; kid pesters kid and scuffle ensues. Wow...big story. Oh, a video game was within a hundred meters? NATIONAL HEADLINE TIME!

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Re: Same shit, different medium....
Mar 19, 2006, 23:59
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Mar 19, 2006, 23:59
 
Hey Jack! oh JACK!!! Now where is he... *looks at pile of poo* oh, there he is. Hey Jack, here is another one for you.
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Re: Same shit, different medium....
Mar 20, 2006, 00:50
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Re: Same shit, different medium.... Mar 20, 2006, 00:50
Mar 20, 2006, 00:50
 
Hey Jack! oh JACK!!! Now where is he...

trying very hard not to ejaculate on his Florsheim's while reading the story....

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Mar 20, 2006, 01:22
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But the crazies will be sure to jump on the "video/PC games made him do it" bandwagon. Which just continues the whole messed up cycle.

Its not crazies, its true. Its a combination of the out of control nature of Video games, Movies, MTV, VH1, The music of the times.

At some point you guys are going to need to accept the truth that people are little computers. They can be programmed to respond a certain way after time. Hour after hour of immorality, violence and corruption with no checks or balances. Everyone has to work 2 jobs just to make ends meet, have their cars, boats houses etc.

While at the same time the 10 commandments, heck, even basic ethics and decency are actually being viewed as Evil while the real evil is now good. Then you all wonder why the world is such a corrupt dangerous out of control place.

But if anyone says anything about this *we* are the real bad guys and the *crazies*.

Wrong.



Time for a Starbucks Dude.

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Mar 20, 2006, 01:35
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Mar 20, 2006, 02:03
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Well, he does have a point.

If there's no such thing as a soul, then all there really is to behaviors are brain circuits and programming.

Is there such thing as free will? If not, then our "programming" is at fault. Can you blame them if their actions are deterministic to what was fed into them?

You can call it fate, or not, are they just little deterministic creatures that will follow their programming (albeit complicated programming?)

Of course, you can bring quantum mechanics into the equation as some have, but even if you do, then probabilistic law is then just applied, and in the large scale of things, we can know with certainty how large patterns of neurons will react (maybe not now, but eventually).

So there you have it:
no soul = must ban video games!
soul = let freedom reign!


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Mar 20, 2006, 02:04
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Who the hell stabs someone over VH1?

I blame the sofa industry. Obviously these kids were sitting on some kind of sofa before the incedent. It's obvious who's truly at fault here.

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Mar 20, 2006, 02:40
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Mar 20, 2006, 02:40
 
I think we can all learn a valuable lesson though.

I know I'll never again taunt a soul on these very fine message boards you douchebags!

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Mar 20, 2006, 02:43
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Mar 20, 2006, 02:43
 
Your post just smacks of insensitivity.

These incidents happen on an almost monthly basis now, it's time people stopped being so closed minded and realised that video games are causing social problems. Soon we'll have an entire generation who know nothing other than how to murder another human being who ended up being in the way.

Disgusting.


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These incidents happen on an almost monthly basis now, it's time people stopped being so closed minded and realised that video games are causing social problems.
Disgusting.

Whats disgusting is how willingly people like you accept the mindless fucking drivel that the popular media spews out. You are what we like to call "dupes". The people that control your mind dont have to work very hard. You've got plenty of room to spare and you dont lay claim to any of it. Its space "for rent". Anyone that has an agenda or a product to sell and needs another drone to push it for them - well, they love people like you. Every machine needs its tiny little cogs to keep it running.

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