Taunting Tragedy?

Prosecutors link taunts to stabbing in the Chicago Tribune (registration required) describes a murder that may have been triggered by taunts hurled while playing a video game (thanks Mike Martinez). This previous report on the Trib (registration required) has more of the gory details on the story, which has also been picked up by the UPI. According to the articles an 11-year old boy died from stab wounds after taunts were exchanged during a session of some unnamed video game. What's not clear is how the taunting ties into the stabbing, as the earlier story says the 16 year-old who was arrested for allegedly stabbing the younger boy was also alleged to be the one who was delivering, rather than receiving the taunts. The later story repeats much of the earlier story verbatim, but omits some of those confusing details along with some descriptions of the evidence, so it may be that some of the finer points that were reported at first have since come into question.
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Re: I believe it's called sarcasm.
Mar 20, 2006, 17:50
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Re: I believe it's called sarcasm. Mar 20, 2006, 17:50
Mar 20, 2006, 17:50
 
Sepharo: I think iheartboys is just that big of an idiot to resort to trolling so awfully

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I believe it's called sarcasm.
Mar 20, 2006, 17:34
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I believe it's called sarcasm. Mar 20, 2006, 17:34
Mar 20, 2006, 17:34
 
iheartboys is probably a genius. I take it he really is anti-anti-videogames and makes a blog making fun of people who ARE anti-videogames by acting like and mocking them. So don't direct your responses at him, direct them at hellbinder who for the moment appears he really is all for government control of the industry and wholly supports the notion that videogames cause you to become evil.

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Re: No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 12:25
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 12:25
Mar 20, 2006, 12:25
 
You're kidding, right?

Myself and just about everyone I know in my age bracket played video games CONSTANTLY, even through college. I'm talking violent FP shooters, talking smack, the whole shabang. Nobody I know has done anything violent, nor do they even own a flippin gun. Heck, a coworker is in his mid-to-late 40's and he still loves playing games (Thief and such) and he is not violent at all.

The same "problem with gaming" could be said about people that like to watch gorey horror movies. These movies have been around for a while now, but how often do we read about kids wearing hockey masks and killing teenagers at Makeout Point (or some other thing).

Honestly, if you let yourself get taken over by a game, you've got bigger issues. If you find the fantasy realm of "Riddick" bleeding into your daily life and feel the need to snap someone's neck or stab someone with a shiv, then I really doubt a video game triggered that. Reading a dark book too many times or getting too involved with a television series would probably "trigger" you just as easily.

If not "violence from games," you'd be stalking Amanda Tapping from Stargate because you think she's a Go'uld or start carrying knives and learning Martial Arts to become more like V (good movie by-the-way).

If you find yourself obscenely addicted to a game (like, playing every day until 2AM on a work night) then it's not video games that's the problem, it's you.

Maybe you have an addictive personality.
Maybe you're depressed and you feel gaming fills the void in your life.
Maybe you have no friends and take solice knowing that in a video game you're part of a group.
But I find it hard to believe that a "video game" caused any of it.




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"Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you."
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Re: No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 10:00
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 10:00
Mar 20, 2006, 10:00
 
The sofa theory is true... They were playing Mario Kart and it got violent.

I think the blame falls squarely on pants, most violent crimes are perpetrated by individuals wearing pants.

If pants were banned, I'm sure there would be a substantial drop in violent crime (followed by a surge in indecent exposure rates though, my plan isn't perfect).


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Re: No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 09:00
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 09:00
Mar 20, 2006, 09:00
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>Soon we'll have an entire generation who know nothing other than how to murder another human being who ended up being in the way.

Well, you DO make me want to break out my S&W 686+ and test out those brand new .357Mg rounds. So do most trolls and generic idiots.

Then again, I don't know what's more pathetic about you: your obvious Microsoft hatred (waah-waah-waah Xsuck 360 can't run 1 microsecond without exploding!), your faux anti-gaming attitude (if you're so anti-gaming, what do you know about Dave Perry or the X360's problems?), or the fact that you're a two-bit troll.

Oh, and if you hate homosexuals so much, move to Saudi Arabia or Cuba or any of those countries where gays are murdered on sight.

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Re: No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 06:24
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 06:24
Mar 20, 2006, 06:24
 
These incidents happen on an almost monthly basis now

You mean violence and murder ACTUALLY happen?! Cut...it...out. Stop! You're killing me! My god, you're really killing me! Ahh!

Take your hysteria somewhere else, alarmist.

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No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 05:43
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No subject Mar 20, 2006, 05:43
Mar 20, 2006, 05:43
 
The sofa theory is true... They were playing Mario Kart and it got violent.

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Mar 20, 2006, 04:12
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 04:12
Mar 20, 2006, 04:12
 
space captain: Read his blog. He's obviously got no independant thought, just defaulting to the anti-videogame stance.

his blog is great except for the violence thing which I beleive is troll material anyhow.

This could be Fredrikson 2.0

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Mar 20, 2006, 03:39
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 03:39
Mar 20, 2006, 03:39
 
Who the hell stabs someone over VH1?

Give me a knife and a Richard Marx retrospective, and the possibilities are endless...

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Mar 20, 2006, 03:25
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 03:25
Mar 20, 2006, 03:25
 
I retract my previous statement, it's obvious a planted troll with a few extra dollars to blow. Look at the way he words things, specifically to be inflammatory.

2 day old blog, calling everyone nerds, and then when this story comes, talking about how EVIL video games are, and even made a category called "murder simulators" rofl.

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Mar 20, 2006, 03:21
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No subject Mar 20, 2006, 03:21
Mar 20, 2006, 03:21
 
thx, but i dont need to read his blog to see that - its quite obvious already

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Re: No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 03:18
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 03:18
Mar 20, 2006, 03:18
 
space captain: Read his blog. He's obviously got no independant thought, just defaulting to the anti-videogame stance.

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Mar 20, 2006, 03:15
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 03:15
Mar 20, 2006, 03:15
 
These incidents happen on an almost monthly basis now, it's time people stopped being so closed minded and realised that video games are causing social problems.
Disgusting.

Whats disgusting is how willingly people like you accept the mindless fucking drivel that the popular media spews out. You are what we like to call "dupes". The people that control your mind dont have to work very hard. You've got plenty of room to spare and you dont lay claim to any of it. Its space "for rent". Anyone that has an agenda or a product to sell and needs another drone to push it for them - well, they love people like you. Every machine needs its tiny little cogs to keep it running.

Enjoy!!

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Mar 20, 2006, 02:43
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 02:43
Mar 20, 2006, 02:43
 
Your post just smacks of insensitivity.

These incidents happen on an almost monthly basis now, it's time people stopped being so closed minded and realised that video games are causing social problems. Soon we'll have an entire generation who know nothing other than how to murder another human being who ended up being in the way.

Disgusting.


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Mar 20, 2006, 02:40
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No subject Mar 20, 2006, 02:40
Mar 20, 2006, 02:40
 
I think we can all learn a valuable lesson though.

I know I'll never again taunt a soul on these very fine message boards you douchebags!

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Mar 20, 2006, 02:04
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 02:04
Mar 20, 2006, 02:04
 
Who the hell stabs someone over VH1?

I blame the sofa industry. Obviously these kids were sitting on some kind of sofa before the incedent. It's obvious who's truly at fault here.

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Mar 20, 2006, 02:03
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 02:03
Mar 20, 2006, 02:03
 
Well, he does have a point.

If there's no such thing as a soul, then all there really is to behaviors are brain circuits and programming.

Is there such thing as free will? If not, then our "programming" is at fault. Can you blame them if their actions are deterministic to what was fed into them?

You can call it fate, or not, are they just little deterministic creatures that will follow their programming (albeit complicated programming?)

Of course, you can bring quantum mechanics into the equation as some have, but even if you do, then probabilistic law is then just applied, and in the large scale of things, we can know with certainty how large patterns of neurons will react (maybe not now, but eventually).

So there you have it:
no soul = must ban video games!
soul = let freedom reign!


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Re: No subject
Mar 20, 2006, 01:35
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Re: No subject Mar 20, 2006, 01:35
Mar 20, 2006, 01:35
 
Hellbinder you are scaring me...

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Mar 20, 2006, 01:22
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No subject Mar 20, 2006, 01:22
Mar 20, 2006, 01:22
 
But the crazies will be sure to jump on the "video/PC games made him do it" bandwagon. Which just continues the whole messed up cycle.

Its not crazies, its true. Its a combination of the out of control nature of Video games, Movies, MTV, VH1, The music of the times.

At some point you guys are going to need to accept the truth that people are little computers. They can be programmed to respond a certain way after time. Hour after hour of immorality, violence and corruption with no checks or balances. Everyone has to work 2 jobs just to make ends meet, have their cars, boats houses etc.

While at the same time the 10 commandments, heck, even basic ethics and decency are actually being viewed as Evil while the real evil is now good. Then you all wonder why the world is such a corrupt dangerous out of control place.

But if anyone says anything about this *we* are the real bad guys and the *crazies*.

Wrong.



Time for a Starbucks Dude.

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Re: Same shit, different medium....
Mar 20, 2006, 00:50
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Re: Same shit, different medium.... Mar 20, 2006, 00:50
Mar 20, 2006, 00:50
 
Hey Jack! oh JACK!!! Now where is he...

trying very hard not to ejaculate on his Florsheim's while reading the story....

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I am a Blues Nazi.
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"Both the “left” and the “right” pretend they have the answer, but they are mere flippers on the same thalidomide baby, and the truth is that neither side has a clue."

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