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Re: Blockbuster Follows Netflix, Again.
Feb 16, 2006, 15:47
nin
 
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Re: Blockbuster Follows Netflix, Again. Feb 16, 2006, 15:47
Feb 16, 2006, 15:47
 nin
 


I vote "Nockbuster"...

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Blockbuster Follows Netflix, Again.
Feb 16, 2006, 15:42
Kxmode
 
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Blockbuster Follows Netflix, Again. Feb 16, 2006, 15:42
Feb 16, 2006, 15:42
 Kxmode
 
Why dont they just have sex and get it over with! Merge for crying out loud... Name could be...

Blockflix
Netbuster
FlixBlock
NetBlock
Blockbusterflix
BlockbusterNetflix
SuperDuperBlockbusterNetflix
UltraMegaSuperDuperBlockbusterNetflix

...ya that last one sounds good.

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Re: No subject
Feb 16, 2006, 10:59
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Re: No subject Feb 16, 2006, 10:59
Feb 16, 2006, 10:59
 
Do you have a link to that

The three changes was off memory, and I didn't re-read these pages enough to double check that.

Google for "Windows Product Activation" and you'll find a ton of info though. Here's a couple:

http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.php
http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/01q1/wpa-1.html

I'll have to wait and see how easy it is to get around the "defect" rule

Shrug, I had to replace my MB last year (the old one died) and I reinstalled Windows without an issue and activated over the Internet. Less than a year prior to that I upgraded two systems by doing a MB swap (new MB/CPU/memory for me, moved my previous to my wife's PC) and authorized both with no issues. Both are using OEM copies of XP (one Home, one Pro).

they're a lot closer now than I remember them being before

Not sure where you're seeing that... if it's that close I'd question the authenticity of the "Retail" copy.

For XP Pro w/ SP2 NewEgg shows a $60 price difference ($199 vs $139). For Home it's even more silly -- $199 vs $94.

Make sure you're not looking at the "Upgrade" edition -- Newegg shows Home Upgrade for $100.

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No subject
Feb 16, 2006, 10:19
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No subject Feb 16, 2006, 10:19
Feb 16, 2006, 10:19
 
Heh heh. Although I didn't feel entirely confident in the article, I did find the defect clause in the original licensing agreement. Thanks for that.

Thank you also for the information about the 3 changes rule, but for the life of me I still can't find anything saying that in the Windows XP Product Activation page on the MS site (it just says "a substantial number"). Do you have a link to that. It sounds right, because I had made other changes and having the memory change require activation surprised me.

I'll have to wait and see how easy it is to get around the "defect" rule. I can't imagine it being a problem, though. I did get the feeling that this isn't a recent change, though. Seems like I've seen this clause in the OEM agreement before.

Last thing is, I just checked the prices on XP vs OEM XP, and they're a lot closer now than I remember them being before (like $8). Is this right?


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Re: No subject
Feb 16, 2006, 09:58
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Re: No subject Feb 16, 2006, 09:58
Feb 16, 2006, 09:58
 
I just can't believe they didn't consider hardware failure

Did you guys not even read the article? You at least read enough to get the "married" bit.

It specifically gives an exception for the case where there is hardware failure.

And it is not enforced by software -- the last sentence states that MS is "asking" installers to enforce this themselves. Good bloody luck there. You could try to enforce it via software, but most likely you'd see the number of MB failures suddenly spike.

Frankly, this doesn't affect most businesses anyway -- they don't do MB upgrades. They buy entire systems. There are a few that may, but it's an exceptionally small number. And any home users knowledgeable enough to upgrade their MBs are going to completely ignore this "edict" anyway.

Talk about a silly move on MS's part.

Oh, and if you're getting asked to renew your license everytime you make even a minor hardware change then it's because you've done so many other hardware changes -- without reinstalling Windows -- that you've crossed the limit. You can do ~3 changes to devices (device = mb, cpu, ram, first HD, first optical drive, video card) before it triggers this mode. Reinstall, get authorized again, and it's reset.

Go read up on the XP authorization system... it's really pretty straightforward (and fairly useless).

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No subject
Feb 16, 2006, 09:18
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No subject Feb 16, 2006, 09:18
Feb 16, 2006, 09:18
 
According to the MS document linked below, the OEM version is "married" to the motherboard. New motherboard = new version of XP required (if it's OEM). I just can't believe they didn't consider hardware failure. I suppose if you bought a professionally built computer, this is covered under warrenty (new MB = new OEM OS) but if you built it yourself you are SOL.

I'm wondering how long ago this licensing change was made. Was this last year?

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No subject
Feb 16, 2006, 09:11
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No subject Feb 16, 2006, 09:11
Feb 16, 2006, 09:11
 
And what happens if your MB burns out during the warranty time, and the replacement isn't exactly the same? If you buy a complete system, you usally don't buy specific parts.

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No subject
Feb 16, 2006, 09:07
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No subject Feb 16, 2006, 09:07
Feb 16, 2006, 09:07
 
It's enforced through the OEM install procedure. Every time I've made a major change to my PC (including doubling the memory from 512 - 1G) I've had to call MS and get a new registration code, online, to activate my OEM version.

What I'm wondering is, if my MB burns out and I have to go buy another, I suppose I have to buy a new version of XP too? This can't be right.

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Re: Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows
Feb 16, 2006, 08:57
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Re: Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows Feb 16, 2006, 08:57
Feb 16, 2006, 08:57
 
I wonder if it is enforced by the software or what...

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Re: OEM Licenses only
Feb 16, 2006, 08:55
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Re: OEM Licenses only Feb 16, 2006, 08:55
Feb 16, 2006, 08:55
 
and this is why I will used pirated/cracked versions of windows for the rest of my life

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OEM Licenses only
Feb 16, 2006, 07:26
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OEM Licenses only Feb 16, 2006, 07:26
Feb 16, 2006, 07:26
 
Someone posted on that website a link to a document on Microsoft's website explaining everything (here's the link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c80436181742/OSLicQA.doc ). It's only for the OEM versions, which are intended to be permanently tied to the hardware it was purchased with (in this case, the motherboard). The Full Retail version on the other hand, is completely transferrable.


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Re: Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows
Feb 16, 2006, 06:00
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Re: Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows Feb 16, 2006, 06:00
Feb 16, 2006, 06:00
 
From what I can tell, it seems to only effect OEM windows. If you buy a retail supposedly this doesn't apply.

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Re: Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows
Feb 16, 2006, 03:37
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Re: Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows Feb 16, 2006, 03:37
Feb 16, 2006, 03:37
 
If this means I have to go buy a new copy of Windows next time I swap MoBo's then Bill can go f*ck himself and I'll be out looking for decent keygen proggie. As much as I don't like it, I like paying for the same software twice even less.


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Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows
Feb 16, 2006, 01:40
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Upgraded Motherboard = New Windows Feb 16, 2006, 01:40
Feb 16, 2006, 01:40
 
Good thing I do my own upgrade work heh.

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