Stargate SG-1 Cancelled?

Gamecloud reports another twist in the ongoing epic saga of the Stargate SG-1 game (thanks Frans). This project was previously reported as cancelled by JoWooD (story), a report that was contradicted by developer Perception (story). It was then revealed that Namco was eager to step in as publisher of this game (story and story), while a subsequent finding by a bankruptcy court seemed to find fault in the dispute over the game to lie with Perception (story). The new report comes from Crazy Ivan's Stargate Alliance Board, where word is:
It pains me to say this but unfortunately Stargate SG-1 The Alliance has been canceled.

An official statement is forth coming from MGM and/or perception in the coming days.

I would like to take this opportunity to wish all the employees of Perception all the very best for the future. Having seen the game first hand I know you guys did a fantastic job and you have every right to feel proud of what you have done.

I encourage all the Perception employees who are hidden members of this forum to let yourselves be known. You should be proud of the work you have done and I encourage all members of the forum here to congratulate the Perception crew and to wish them all the very best.
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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 16:43
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 16:43
Jan 21, 2006, 16:43
 
You have GOT to be kidding. SG1's writing has gone to hell since last season, and turning it into "Far(scape)Gate SP2" has had laughably depressing results.

Inserting cookie cutter characters from another show was just disasterous. SG1 should have died and let Atlantis take over when RDA and Don Davis decided to leave the regular cast. Then maybe the drama of one of the Stargate shows would at least be able to hold a candle to the dramatic quality in Galactica (Don't turn this into a Starbuck discussion. Let it go).

As forthe game, I can speak from direct personal experience that the poster who said that the game was a victim of politics, rather than quality is absolutely correct. There was a Game I worked on that involved IP from Warner and assets from "the cancelling publisher" that needed components from both to move to a new publisher. The proverbial "suits" at the "the cancelling publisher" let the deal lie on the desk until the project was no longer viable. Even though they would have received a drop check for $850K for the assets.

That should show you just how much sense the game industry makes.

Condolences to the Dev team...I do indeed feel your pain.

^D^

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Jan 21, 2006, 16:41
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Jan 21, 2006, 16:41
 
.....and not surprisingly people like Overon and wildone were once again proven to not know what the heck they are talking about while shooting their mouths off anyway.

Suggesting that "Good games don’t get cancelled" is as about a Clueless and infantile statement as you will find on this board. Which is saying a lot, because about 90% of the posts here are clueless and infantile.
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Sad/Good day for SG1 fans
Jan 21, 2006, 16:40
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Sad/Good day for SG1 fans Jan 21, 2006, 16:40
Jan 21, 2006, 16:40
 
I wanted this game so bad, with the voices of all the original members of SG1, this would have been super.

But I guess MGM didn't think the game was good enough to be related to the SG1 franchise, so maybe it's a good day?

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Jan 21, 2006, 16:31
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Jan 21, 2006, 16:31
 
Firefly gets cancelled but Andromeda went on to make how many seasons? How many did "Enterprise" get for that matter? Surface is also on it's second season, that show isn't too hot either.

SG1, BSG, and Firefly are some of the best scifi shows ever imo.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 16:22
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 16:22
Jan 21, 2006, 16:22
 
Good movie. Stupid TV show. If it was any good it would have been cancelled years ago

A point proven by both Firefly and Futurama - the good shows get cancelled and shows like Battlestar Galactica get a second season. (Ok, I know Futurama had four seasons, but my point stands).

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good vs. sales
Jan 21, 2006, 16:17
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Jan 21, 2006, 16:17
 
Just to address a previous comment:

"Good" (and even Great) games get cancelled in this industry *all the time*. Games that make money are eventually shipped. Sometimes games that ship are both good and money makers, but don't confuse the two. Rarely do we actually get good games, we just get money makers the majority of the time.


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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 16:07
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 16:07
Jan 21, 2006, 16:07
 
"O'Neil, with one L. There's another Col. O'Neill with two Ls, but he doesn't have a sense of humor."

I love Sg-1, and I was looking forward to this game. I wonder what the are going to do with all of the unused assests such as the voice recordings by the actors. It would be nice to see a company like Raven step in and take this over. Or maybe MGM will stop stonewalling Perception and let them finally publish the game.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 16:00
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 16:00
Jan 21, 2006, 16:00
 
From one of the staff members at Perception:

"For the last couple of months, we have had several good offers from interested publishers. They only needed one thing - MGM's approval. Since MGM are the owners of the Stargate license, everything needs to be approved by them, even new publisher contracts. So, when we approached MGM about these contracts...MGM basically sat on their hands and did nothing. They didn't flat out say no, but they didn't say yes either. They expressed concerns with areas of the game. We addressed those concerns. Still no publisher approval. We showed them other offers from publishers, and that said publishers were asking for more information on the license. Did MGM provide it? No, even though contractually they were supposed to.

In the end it was pretty obvious MGM wanted the project canned for some reason that eludes everyone except them, but they didn't want to be the ones to do it. So, they just sat on their hands and did nothing for several months, to the point where Perception could not afford to keep working on the game knowing that they didn't have MGM's approval, and will probably never get it. Developers need publishers to fund the creation of a game. Without the publisher, the developer gets no income. Without MGM's approval, Perception couldn't sign a publisher. So the equation is pretty simple. There's only so long a developer can hold on financially without publisher backing.

As of about Friday the 20th of January 2006, at about 1pm Sydney time, the title "Stargate SG-1: The Alliance" was terminated for all SKU's. This also means the entire development team was "let go". I am now out of a job. After putting blood, sweat and tears into this thing for the last year and a half, and pulling some ridiculous hours on more occasions I can count, it's all for nothing."

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:52
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:52
Jan 21, 2006, 15:52
 
I don't think you can infer anything about the quality of the product.
I think you can. Products that the publisher thinks can earn a profit get published. If the money put in is greater than the money the publisher expects to get out is when games get cancelled. If the publisher is putting money into development and the result is not up to par, the cost/benefit analysis results in cancellations.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:52
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:52
Jan 21, 2006, 15:52
 
Good movie. Stupid TV show. If it was any good it would have been cancelled years ago.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:43
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:43
Jan 21, 2006, 15:43
 
"good games don't get cancelled"

hmmm... clearly you don't work in the game industry!

This game has been cancelled due to politics by the sounds of it. I don't think you can infer anything about the quality of the product.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:42
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:42
Jan 21, 2006, 15:42
 
Well relatively speaking, I don't think the movie was lame and tv show either. Relatively speaking to the dozens of other stuff out there. Stargate is better. In my not so humble opinion.
Eh, I'll admit the movie was pretty lame. It fits in to the TV series well enough, but the TV series is much better done in comparison.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:40
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:40
Jan 21, 2006, 15:40
 
A lame movie, lame TV show..game prob would have followed

Well relatively speaking, I don't think the movie was lame and tv show either. Relatively speaking to the dozens of other stuff out there. Stargate is better. In my not so humble opinion.

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:33
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Re: It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:33
Jan 21, 2006, 15:33
 
A lame movie, lame TV show..game prob would have followed

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Re: It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:33
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Jan 21, 2006, 15:33
 
Good games don't get cancelled.
So I find it unlikely that the game was being developed in a quality product.


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It should be said
Jan 21, 2006, 15:17
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It should be said Jan 21, 2006, 15:17
Jan 21, 2006, 15:17
 
As O'Neill would say: Doh!

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