shoots Harvey Fucking Smith on sight


Isn't Harvey Smith at Midway? Essentially the same thing in the end.

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This comment was edited on Nov 26, 13:30.

If he takes full control over the project himself, gets a dedicated team to do JUST that one project, shoots Harvey Fucking Smith on sight, and stays far far far far far away from fucking publishers, I think Warren is going to pleasantly surprise us with his next game.

Ofcourse, those are a lot of ifs...

Creston

Maybe... he... is.. making... ULTIMA UNDERWORLD 3 !!!!

Or....

SYSTEM SHOCK 3 ....

Or maybe it's a NEW IP that is just more awesome than we can possibly imagine !!!

And it's on Steam, so I can download it at my pleasure without having to go to a store anywhere !!

EEEEeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

Now where are Quake 5 and Doom 4...

Yours Truly,
OT

I always leave it set to not load up at windows startup and I have never seen it reset that option.

Same here...

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I always leave it set to not load up at windows startup and I have never seen it reset that option.

Maybe I'm just unlucky, then. But it does do that, and sometimes it'll do it, try to start updating again (for some reason) on that startup, and then freeze up and need to be killed via ctrl-alt-del.

Freespace 2: Lost Souls
http://www.sectorgame.com/aldo/

Thief Source! Deus Ex Source! System Shock Source!!!

one other annoyance; why does it always seem to set itself to run on startup after being patched?)

I always leave it set to not load up at windows startup and I have never seen it reset that option.

This comment was edited on Nov 23, 06:06.

This is what's technically called innovation. I'm not being facetious or trolling, it's just how it's definined in the technical and business sence of the word (in this case in regards to connectivity).

If the connectivity is itself innovative, which I'm genuinely not sure about.

I don't think it's a bad concept per se (just a bad implementation of it), but I'm not sure I'd define it as a genuinely innovative technology (within the definition of being ahead of the times); I'm pretty sure the concept of delivering software in that way has been around for some time, but perhaps not done in such a commercially succesful manner.

This must have taken quite some doing; you must of actively tried to ignore this fact, as it was widely known well in advance. Especially someone who goes to sites like Blue's has no right to this statement; everyone at least sllightly informed knew how Steam worked well in advance.

I'd never taken any interest in it (steam) before, including any stories here or otherwise. Perhaps that's uninformed by the standards, but it's the same level of information as many people have. So, no, it was by no means (well, obviously) a deliberately ignored thing, it was an honest mistake. I mean, it's not an easy thing to stumble across by accident; not a single 'mainstream' review mentioned it. After all, people still got caught out not realising they required an internet connection, even after reading the (tiny - about size 8 font) text on the box.

The only way you can say this is you're also against the cdkey Quake3 et all employ, seeing how trivial it is to re-install if you have a propper key for Steam.

Actually, the CD key would be another reason why I think Steam is pointless in this regard (i.e. there is one), but to me it's a pretty big issue in terms that I don't naturally expect to have to memorise or copy a seperate set of usernames and passwords for every game I own. That's different, IMO, from CD keys printed on a game box / media, because it requires a thought process different from other games purchases; namely that the object you buy is not sufficient alone to play the game.

Tenous reasoning, yes, but it's been the most pertinent annoying thing for me; it kept me from uninstalling HL2 for quite some time until I decided to just go 'bugger it'.

Oh, and I meant the middleware Steam, not the internet connection, in terms of 'Steam running' (that is, the application footprint). I'm not sure why on earth it should be so tightly bound to the game, and I'm not sure there's a technical reason that would make it necessary. (one other annoyance; why does it always seem to set itself to run on startup after being patched?)

Freespace 2: Lost Souls
http://www.sectorgame.com/aldo/

Squirel...no more from you until you have some solid game-info/screenshots, please...you're making me rock hard here

"but instead merely brings together a number of existing concepts with regards to connectivity"

This is what's technically called innovation. I'm not being facetious or trolling, it's just how it's definined in the technical and business sence of the word (in this case in regards to connectivity).

For the rest your post is spot on, except for two things:

"under the misapprehension Steam was something I could just uninstall after the game was activated"

This must have taken quite some doing; you must of actively tried to ignore this fact, as it was widely known well in advance. Especially someone who goes to sites like Blue's has no right to this statement; everyone at least sllightly informed knew how Steam worked well in advance.

"nd will not be able to reinstall and run it unless I can remember a password and username I last saw something like a year ago."

The only way you can say this is you're also against the cdkey Quake3 et all employ, seeing how trivial it is to re-install if you have a propper key for Steam.

"is one that surely deserves reasoned cricitism."

I agree...there is enough to criticise Steam over (50 meg footprint whilst running for a non-graphical app?!?!? WTF?), but most of the ones you mention are not really applicable (barring the one about having to have Steam running when you play teh game, which is erronious...there is a widely documented and always working 'offline' mode).

There is no System Shock 3 in production. I suspect you're referring to BioShock, which is a spiritual, but unofficial, successor to System Shock 2.

Yeah thats what I meant, thanks for the reminder

I'm definitely all for good developers making money - especially if it means cutting out greedy useless publishers.

What I'm not for is the slippery slope toward pay-per-play that all of this is.

Democracy has outlived its purpose in this country and made us weak. The American public is no longer worthy of the gift of democracy and now needs a strong hand to guide it!

ha, that's the philosophy of the NeoCon -
George Bush, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Don Rumsfeld, etc.
Zeig Heil!

Nah, if that could ever come true (it's quite impossible, but for pretending's sake), and I simply HAD to have a given game, I'd just get it in... a different way. Oh well! Ironic isn't it? Their attempts at ensuring they get everyone's money will ensure they don't get mine (and others'), when they otherwise would have.

Despite piracy, I would imagine that the money saved from not having to pay publisher royalties will still provide them with more money than if they published traditionally. I don't mind suffering some minor inconvenience if it means good developers make more money. Not having to worry about money means developers can take risks, innovate, experiment. Game publishers are strangling the innovation out of modern games, and if you and others like you would like to see that continue, by all means, steal from the poor and give to the rich. I really don't think it matters at this point, as I get the sense that most people support self-publishing (and in doing so, they support good developers).

You not hear of System Shock 3 - it was posted a while ago (Around the time system shock rebooted for doom 3 was geting made).... Google the name, or look at TTLG

There is no System Shock 3 in production. I suspect you're referring to BioShock, which is a spiritual, but unofficial, successor to System Shock 2.

This comment was edited on Nov 22, 20:31.

Is anyone taking Wade serious? It seems painfully obvious he's just trying to stir some shit.

You not hear of System Shock 3 - it was posted a while ago (Around the time system shock rebooted for doom 3 was geting made).... Google the name, or look at TTLG

(Deleted since rendered superfluous by preceding posts. There's no need to hammer Wade now since he has already been sufficiently smashed by others.)

This comment was edited on Nov 22, 19:53.

Hmm... I suppose when the F.E.A.R. SDK comes out.

like how soon...2min... had to ask

Anyone know of any other games coming like System shock/Deus Ex.... even if your working on one

Yeah, I'm working on a mod and you will know soon enough.