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Oct 8, 2005, 17:19
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Re: No subject Oct 8, 2005, 17:19
Oct 8, 2005, 17:19
 
I really wish it were video compression artifacts, but it's been confirmed by people at X05. PGR3 had texture streaming problems, and jaggies were abundant. I've also read of other games, such as Oblivion and PDZ, that were missing AA; Hopefully that's just a MS driver issue that'll be corrected by launch.

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Oct 8, 2005, 13:41
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Oct 8, 2005, 13:41
 
Notice the horrible mipmap popup on the buildings. The hi-res textures streaming off the DVD barely load by the time you drive by.

I'm more inclined to believe that's down to compression artifacts in order to keeping the video size down.

Hard to believe they would have transitions that obvious in game.

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Re: HD Issue
Oct 8, 2005, 11:41
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Re: HD Issue Oct 8, 2005, 11:41
Oct 8, 2005, 11:41
 
[troll]

Only Microsoft can make a console purchase as complicated as buying a car.

Allard: "Wait! We haven't talked about options!"

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Re: HD Issue
Oct 8, 2005, 01:58
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Re: HD Issue Oct 8, 2005, 01:58
Oct 8, 2005, 01:58
 
I think they should have had one $360 SKU. Drop it to $300 or add a free game voucher before the PS3 comes out. Or include Halo(2) HD on the hard drive.

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Oct 8, 2005, 01:36
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No subject Oct 8, 2005, 01:36
Oct 8, 2005, 01:36
 
All I can say is that I hope people aren't just talking out of their asses when they say that the core system is a waste and everyone buys the premium. I want those core systems collecting dust on the retailers shelves damnit!

but if allard's PR fluff piece is any indication, he'll just make another statement claiming that that was the plan along and gush over how they are so in tune with gamers.

I would trust companies so much more if they actually had the humanity to admit that they misjudged something or that they fucked up.

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Oct 7, 2005, 20:24
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No subject Oct 7, 2005, 20:24
Oct 7, 2005, 20:24
 
I thought FFXI and Morrowind both needed an HD? (Plus I've read some stuff had to be removed from another game - Saints Row - because of the uncertainty. Namely flyable planes)

IMO, comparing a console to a hi-fi, etc is a bit daft. Hi-fis, videos, etc, all have a standard to work to. Mobiles likewise; they have a common core feature set like the whole, well, phone call thing. In pretty much all those consumer electronic cases, the machine is being created to use an existing product or standard.

The example of a Mini - a car - is pretty bizarre, too; you buy any car, and odds are it'll have a steering wheel, pedals, take some form of fuel, etc. You don't buy a car, and then have to pay extra to get rear tyres fitted.

Whereas a console is one of those things that exists before a product, and has the product made for it specifically. I imagine Allard is imagining some brave new world uibcomp scenario in future where you have something like Windows in your kitchen, in your bedroom, TV, etc; a situation where you'll buy, say, one game and then 10 different machines to play it on (the whole xbox as 'trojan horse' thing to get computers and hence MS into the living room).

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Re: HD Issue
Oct 7, 2005, 17:30
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Re: HD Issue Oct 7, 2005, 17:30
Oct 7, 2005, 17:30
 
I don't really think the backwards compatability issue is all that big. Really now, you buy a 360 to play xbox games? Chances are, you already own an xbox anyway. On top of that, it's been stated that the the top selling games will be compatible, so you can assume your copies of Halo and Ninja Gaiden will work.


The Core system should be called Xbox 180 cause it's not the 360. The 360 has wireless controllers, HD everything, and comes with a Hard drive and is backwards compatible with the xbox, plus a multimedia remote for dvd's. The 180 comes with no High Def cables, no backwards compatability, and a wired controller.



The system's still the same, and you can buy all the crap separate, but it will certainly cost you more doing that just popping another $100 and getting the next higher option.



My opinion on not making the HD standard?
STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!



No shit...a funky ass new Live with multiple tiers of membership, options for HD or none at all, options for wireless or wired controllers; out of the 3 consoles being launched soon, the 360 is certainly the most complicated to get into.


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Oct 7, 2005, 16:54
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Oct 7, 2005, 16:54
 
My opinion on not making the HD standard?
STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!

How will games play without the hard drive?
http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2574/Project-Gotham-Racing-3-Footage/

Notice the horrible mipmap popup on the buildings. The hi-res textures streaming off the DVD barely load by the time you drive by.


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Oct 7, 2005, 14:58
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No subject Oct 7, 2005, 14:58
Oct 7, 2005, 14:58
 
So that seems like a win for developers--I'm not sure who's supposed to be disappointed."

god he sounds like an absolute tool when he says shit like that. he acts as he's just now hearing that people are disappointed in the dual SKU approach...jesus christ, does he use the internet at all? you read any thread concerning the 360 and you'll find someone bitching about the lack of HD

I hate it when consumers are disappointed in something, and the companies counter by telling us what we want, as if they know the jedi mind trick or something.

what? you wanted a HD in all configurations? wtf? no you don't you want what we want.

here he sounds like he time warped back into junior high:

He also added, "A lot of people have said: 'This is really confusing--you have different configurations and blah, blah, blah', and I'm like:

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HD Issue
Oct 7, 2005, 14:00
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HD Issue Oct 7, 2005, 14:00
Oct 7, 2005, 14:00
 
The Core system should be called Xbox 180 cause it's not the 360. The 360 has wireless controllers, HD everything, and comes with a Hard drive and is backwards compatible with the xbox, plus a multimedia remote for dvd's. The 180 comes with no High Def cables, no backwards compatability, and a wired controller.

Saying the Xbox 360 sells for 299.99 is a lie. The xbox 180 sells for 299.99, the 360 sells fro 399.99. (And wait till you add the cost of 1 game and 1 more controller!)

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I love...
Oct 7, 2005, 12:55
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I love... Oct 7, 2005, 12:55
Oct 7, 2005, 12:55
 
...Microsfot PR.

It is great.

Edit: Another fun, idiotic Allard response:
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1266&Itemid=2

If we can just get him a restraining order, he can be the Ballmer of videogames...
Answer: The HD lets down both the gamer and developer.
Not even commenting on the "backward compatability" stuff :),
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