Lord, you sure do. Again and again and again, over and over, ad nauseam. For reasons you would be well rewarded to explore with a qualified counselor.
This right here shows your complete idiocy or desire to make up stuff out of thin air to argue against Valve.It is idiotic of you to claim that Steam is immediate. It is far from it. To say that I would complain about an 18 hour download on release day is also idiotic. Downloading that much data takes a lot of time. I know that, and I stated it. You want to gloss over that fact to make Steam seem immediate when it is far from it.
If they hadn't done it that way you know full well you would be bitching about how it took 18 hours to download on the release day.
It's just a case of you finding whatever you can pick and pull out of someone's post to use to make up stuff to make Valve look bad.I simply responded to the drivel you posted. Don't want me to make you look bad? Don't write such sycophantish crap. As for Valve looking bad, it does that all by itself. I just point it out.
t still took 18 hours or more to download all of that content (if you have a standard 1.5MBps broadband connection). The fact that it may have happened before the official release is irrelevant. Technically, Valve could have made the game available as soon as you downloaded the files and not made you wait to a certain date to activate and decrypt them.
Saying that Steam is immediate is therefore a specious argument. It would be like me saying that retail is immediate because I have my butler stand outside the video game store when it opens, and he picks the game up and installs it on my PC so it is immediately ready to play when I get home.
I see, someone likes something you don't, ergo they are blindly following Valve.No, his arguments were specious as I pointed out. He was simply regurgitating Valve's company line as a blind follower would.
Half-Life 2 is released over steam, I was playing it 15 minutes later.It still took 18 hours or more to download all of that content (if you have a standard 1.5MBps broadband connection). The fact that it may have happened before the official release is irrelevant. Technically, Valve could have made the game available as soon as you downloaded the files and not made you wait to a certain date to activate and decrypt them.
Last week DoD:S was released over steam, I was playing it about 10 minutes after release. Less time then it would have taken me to find my keys and head down to the local game store.
if Valve ever goes under they will unlock all purchased game content.Where has Valve officially stated that is the case? As far as I know it hasn't, and even if it had, Valve's history of promises on its future actions demonstrates that they don't have much validity.
You absolutely have to accept any patches they give you.That is also true of Steam games. Content is updated and forced upon the client each time the game is launched. There is no option or prompt to prevent this update. Turning auto-updates off just disables updating games in the background. But, the games are always updated at launch if online and an update is available. Even many modified game files get overwritten.
And if they ever shut down the servers they are running, you are literaly stuck with a game you can't use.Similar to what Valve did to all Half-Life 1 owners when it forced Steam upon them to continue to play online.
No I don't blindly follow ValveYour post demonstrates otherwise.
1) Riley, no, if you buy HL via Steam you can download it as a free mod, just like you can download every other free mod. CS is a free mod and comes with all versions of HL for free. I repeat: CS is a free mod and comes with all versions of HL for free. One last time: CS is a free mod and comes with all versions of HL for free.You can repeat it as much as you like, but you are still wrong. If Counterstrike came with Valve's Half-Life 1 Steam offering, it would be listed in the contents on the official Steam sales page I cited. It is NOT an omission. Counterstrike costs extra. It is also not included in Valve's new Half-Life 1 retail offering.
Riley, you're the one that has the bias towards developers, not games. You go into every single Valve thread. In fact, you rarely pop your head into a discussion that isn't about Valve.If you actually read through my post history, you would know that is NOT true. I have posted in more threads which don't pertain to Valve than those that do.
Which makes it hysterical that you claim to be the one without the bias.I didn't post anything about me not having bias. I said I am not a FAN of game companies; I am a customer. I am biased against Valve based upon its past actions with Steam. I was a satisified customer up until that point.
valve and steam have a major client problem it appears do to a credit and debt card processing malfunction thousands of gammers around the world who prepaid and later down loaded source later had the game removed saying their credit card was denied when in fact their bank says the transaction was approved. Now they sit in limbo with a pending transaction and no game. a high ranking ceo will have to resign when this is said and done this is going to be a hugh problem with people already talking about class action law suits.
...ok. I already brought up the possibility that they certainly might not do this in my original post. I then followed with my personal opinion that they would, and made it clear it was my opinion. Are you arguing I shouldn't express an opinion? I didn't state it as fact.
I then brought up a situation that I think leaves the customer much more dependant on an outside source to run yet I don't see people like Riley flipping out over it.
Uh, and that was exactly my point. There's no way to tell one way other the other, so making an assumption that it is going to happen is just as silly as making one that it isn't.
No, your comparison is not valid. Your comparison would only be valid if the customer expectations were similar, and they aren't.
And why not believe the claim? It's just as much a personal decission as not believing the claim.
My comparison is valid, they are both video games you purchase for a flat fee. One you continue to pay per month and if it ever shuts down your screwed.