ESA to Sue MI Governor

Video Game Industry to Sue Michigan's Governor (thanks WarCry) has word on the ESA's efforts at countering recent legislation aimed at criminalizing the sale of Adult and Mature rated games to those under 17 years of age in Michigan (story). Here's a bit:
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 14, 2005--The computer and video game industry will file suit in Michigan asking that the state's new video game law be overturned, the Entertainment Software Association announced today. Similar laws were previously found unconstitutional and thrown out in St. Louis, Indianapolis, and Washington State, costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees.

"If this law is implemented, it will not only limit First Amendment rights for Michigan's residents, but, by virtue of its vagueness, it will also create a huge amount of confusion for Michigan's retailers, parents, and video game developers," said Douglas Lowenstein, president of the ESA, the trade group representing U.S. computer and video game publishers. "I'm confident the court will affirm our position given the rulings on similar statutes in other jurisdictions; indeed, the facts, the science, the law, and the U.S. Constitution have not changed since those decisions were handed down."
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w00t!

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In short
Sep 14, 2005, 15:43
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The only ones getting better off from this are the fucking lawyers.

Oh, and ofcourse, Michigan's governor will soon get a nice cushy 400.000 dollar job with the UN.

Creston


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Ahhhh.
Sep 14, 2005, 15:57
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Ahhhh. Sep 14, 2005, 15:57
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Remember the sweet, good ol' days before video games even had ratings.

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Ridiculous. "Put down the DVD case and come out with your hands up!"


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Welcome to the age of games having to be E-rated child-friendly slop. Let's get used to playing games with animated colorful animals and politically-correct plots. Because if laws like this get passed in any great number, that is the only type of game you will see retailers carrying in their stores.

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That and teen games.

It's all moot because eventually games will be in pay for play, downloaded format.

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will the police have sting operations like they do with alcohol? -
pay some 15-yr-old to go in and buy an AO game, then rush in and arrest the cashier? Tonite on America's Most Wanted.

Next up: Nick and Norm ads linking marijuana videogames to Terrorism.
"You know, money from videogames goes to buy guns for Al Queda."
"Really?"
"It's a F.A.C.T."

or maybe some
This is Your Brain,
This is Your Brain on Games
inanity.

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Doug Lowenstein rock, rock on!

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CMU didn't need that 1.4$ million anyway
Sep 14, 2005, 17:06
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It's funny because Central Mich Uni students have seen massive hikes in tuition because of cuts in higher education funding to Granholm. She'll probably cut more to pay the legal fees, it's a catch 22 huh.

Bitch.

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With all the shitheads and drama I'm beginning to think:

Remember the sweet, good ol' days before video games...

Like BB Guns and Lawn Darts.

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will the police have sting operations like they do with alcohol? -
pay some 15-yr-old to go in and buy an AO game, then rush in and arrest the cashier? Tonite on America's Most Wanted.

Or worse...I'm waiting for the first parent to go to jail because they let the neighbor's kid play GTA with their kid.
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Sep 14, 2005, 17:35
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Like BB Guns and Lawn Darts.

My dad and his friend, from lack of resources I hope, maybe they just didn't like one another, didn't even use BB guns, they actually shot at each other with single shot 22 caliber rifles. Well, till someone got up when they weren't supposed to and got his ear pierced ... in two.

Now I can see laws that should regulate something like that, but I do like the idea of ATFV, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Video game division. "Dude, did you narc me out for my stash of GTA."

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Or worse...I'm waiting for the first parent to go to jail because they let the neighbor's kid play GTA with their kid.

Crap, sounds possible and goddamn fucking scary...

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Really, is there any way we can help them so this never fucking happens? A petition perhaps?

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Re: CMU didn't need that 1.4$ million an
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Hello fellow Cmich student...

Granholm is responsible for me eating ramen everyday and on weekends I get to eat a special treat... BALOGNA SANDWICH!

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So what's the big deal?
Sep 14, 2005, 18:05
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So what's the big deal? Sep 14, 2005, 18:05
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Okay, I'm sorry, but I just *DON'T GET IT*.

I've lived in the US, and yet there are still things I don't get about it - like the clinging to the consitution for things that patently don't make sense.

So: Game rating ages are attempting to be enforced by law - sounds perfectly reasonable, we do it in New Zealand under the same rating system as movies and dvds and publications (you know, old style pr0n) - and this is "unconstitutional" on grounds of freedom of speech? Thus creating lots of legal arguments, etc, etc, which will eventually resulting in a redrafting of the law so it will have exactly the same effect but rephrase things so that people can't object on constitutional grounds?

Right, that seems like a good use of taxpayer and industry cash.

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Next up: Nick and Norm ads linking marijuana videogames to Terrorism.
"You know, money from videogames goes to buy guns for Al Queda."
"Really?"
"It's a F.A.C.T."

Didn't someone already try to play that card? Oh wait, that was about software piracy.

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The bill outlines that, if you have a guest in your house, they can play whatever they want ; ) It's just when you get a business involved.

Also, fyi, homicide rates pretty much across the country have been declining steady for the past 15-20 years. About the same time the Nintendo Entertainment System made its debut in the US.

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/history.jsp

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/HomicideFeb00_10199_7.PDF

http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonline/Search/Homicide/State/StatebyState.cfm

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will the police have sting operations like they do with alcohol? -
Most definitely yes because it generates revenue for the local goverments from the fines imposed.


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Re: CMU didn't need that 1.4$ million anyway
Sep 14, 2005, 19:33
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It's funny because Central Mich Uni students have seen massive hikes in tuition because of cuts in higher education funding to Granholm. She'll probably cut more to pay the legal fees
Actually laws like this generate revenue from the fines. Higher education may not see more funding from this but some goverment budgets will definitely see revenue from this.


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