Michigan's Violent Gaming Law

Granholm Signs New Laws to Protect Children from Violent and Sexually-Explicit Video Games (thanks bandersnatch) has word on a new law in Michigan to take effect in December making it illegal to sell Mature or Adult rated video games to children:
LANSING – Governor Jennifer M. Granholm today signed legislation that that will make the sale or rental of mature or adult-rated video games to children illegal. The new law applies to children age 17 and younger and will take effect on December 1, 2005.

“Making sure that our children are protected is an essential function of government,” Granholm said. “This new common-sense law is one more tool we can provide to help parents protect their children from the effects of violence and graphic adult content.”
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Score another one for the Democrats.

Yay democrats!

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I don't really have a problem with making it illegal to sell games to underage kids (in Australia the rating system is government-controlled, so I'm used to it). What I have a problem with is the different treatment given to other entertainment mediums. If you make it illegal to sell games, make it illegal to sell movies. Just focusing on games suggests there's something inherently more dangerous about games, which has not been proven by any study anywhere.

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Well I'm sure no porn shop would ever sell Anal Rookies or The Adventures of Betty Bukkake to a 12 year old kid. Surely there are laws on the books prohibiting the sales of poorly titled porn movies to minors.


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A lot of these laws are popping up lately. Thank you, Rockstar.

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IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!

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I'm sure it will be well enforced. It's one of those feel good laws.

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common-sense law
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As of today the government mandates by law common-sense to all its citizens.


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I live in Michigan, and I think this is sad. The penalties are waaaay out of line with the "crime", for one thing. Also, why can movies, television, and music (even books) police themselves but games can't?

You can't blame this only on the democrats though. My local republican congressman (Fred Upton) was leading the investigation in the House into the Hot Coffee mod. This idiocy affects both sides of the aisle. If you want to blame anyone, blame all the religious zealots who voted for anti-gay marriage amendments last year and scared the democrats into finding a "moral issue" of their own.

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Parents don't protect their kids. The only thing diffrent in the generations is what they have been sitting their kids in front of. The Radio, The TV, The Console, and now the Computer. They just give their kids what they want to shut them up and keep them occupied without a second thought of what their children are doing.

From Colombine, to the kid who killed himself over Everquest to the Grandmother who bought their grandchild GTA:SA and is trying to sue a whole bunch of companies.

Parents simply do not care about their children. Hell I remember I could get just about anything I wanted growing up with enough nagging and agrivation (except a 3DO system, mommy wasn't gonna shell out 600 bucks unless it massaged her feet).

What this country needs is give out mandatory classes for parents, who give little Timmy something they want without taking the time to find out what it is.

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“Making sure that our children are protected is an essential function of government,” Granholm said. “This new common-sense law is one more tool we can provide to help parents protect their children from the effects of violence and graphic adult content.”

Hmmm I thought that was the parents job. They should call this one the lazy ass parent law.


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But it's still legal to GIVE an underaged child a Mature or AO rated video game! And most kids are smart enough to warez it now. So the law is irrelevant.

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Thats right kiddies. No violent games for you. Now run along outside and play cops & robbers or Cowboys & Indians.

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making it illegal to sell Mature or Adult rated video games to children

About fecking time.

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I'm in Michigan as well as Brym is, and I can say it is not just a Democrat issue, although its polarized that way with Hilary and Jack Thompson leading in the press releases on this issue. This will perhaps slow sales, but it certainly won't stop it. Remember the story about the grandmother buying San Andreas for her 14 year old grandson? The new law would not have stopped her from buying it. And I can almost bet it will not be enforced to stringently. When I was a teen in the 70's it was never a problem getting alcohol, smokes or seeing R rated movies. Illegal yes, but there were ways to get around it, as I'm sure 17 and youngers will have no major problems getting the games they want. All they have to do is throw a piss fit and most parents will just give up and buy it for them to shut them up. Or the underpaid nerd at GameStop just won't give a shit about selling a game to whoever shows up to buy it.
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“Making sure that our children are protected is an essential function of government,”

I would say that that is an essential function of BEING A PARENT. As a government, your job is to make sure that your entire constituency is protected from things such as crime. It's not a government's job to be the moral police over children, despite how much the US government seems to want to be.

Having said that, why are we all so worried about this? So they can't sell violent games to minors anymore, so what? They'll still get made, and they'll still get bought. This is one of those vaporlaws that will have exactly 0% effect on anything, since little Timmy will just have his big brother Tommy buy the game for him.

Score another one for the "Let's pretend we're doing something about an issue, but not really do anything" politicians. Governor Granholm is a sure bet for a United Nations job in a few years time.

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The thing that I fear is going to happen is that the politicians are going to see this law not working and use that as an excuse to argue that the industry is not capable of regulating itself. Then they'll use that as an excuse for government regulation of video games. Unfortunately, while the video game industry has lobbying power, they don't nearly have the power that other large industries (*cough*big oil*cough*) have. Why these politicians are so intent on supporting lazy parents who use television as a babysitter and then blame it for the way their kids turn out is beyond me. I guess they were probably the same.

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The troubling thing is that this looks good on the cover on the newspapers, but holds no water in the real world.

Parents will still buy games for the underage kids.

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“Making sure that our children are protected is an essential function of government,”

What a load of CRAP!!!! I'm responsible for my children. Not the government. Sheesh!


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The troubling thing is that this looks good on the cover on the newspapers, but holds no water in the real world.

Parents will still buy games for the underage kids.

On the plus side, it places more of an impetus upon parents to know the law reagrding ratings, and helps weaken those stupid 'GTA taught me how to kill!' type lawsuits.

I've said it like 5 times alread, but America needs to copy the UK/EU ratings system. We have none of this pullaver.

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