Stargate - Perception Strikes Back [Aug 12, 2005, 09:06 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Aussie developer Perception (story) responds to the recent
announcement
JoWooD of the cancellation of development of Stargate-SG1: The Alliance,
refuting the publisher's contention that this is Perception versus reality:
Sydney, Australia, 12th of August, 2005; Perception Pty Ltd would like to rectify certain statements that have been made to the press by JoWooD Productions. To be clear, Perception is the official licensee of MGM on Stargate SG-1: The Alliance. Any suggestion that JoWooD has rights to Stargate SG-1: The Alliance upon termination of the contract is incorrect and not based on commercial or legal fact.
Development on the game will continue uninterrupted at Perception’s Sydney studio. Perception is committed to giving fans the best gaming experience possible.
Ben Lenzo, CEO of Perception said, “We view it as unfortunate that JoWooD would elect to make such misleading and libelous comments to the media and the marketplace. Over the last 9 months, JoWooD has openly acknowledged being in breach of contract in a number of areas including many legal and confidentiality breaches as well as several financial defaults for work performed by Perception and accepted by JoWooD.”
Perception has tried to work with JoWooD to resolve these issues for months but to no avail. This resulted in several breach notices being served on JoWooD, giving them ample time to remedy. As these newest issues had not been resolved by the August 5th 2005, Perception gave notice that all outstanding issues would need to be resolved by Monday August 8th 2005, or Perception would terminate its contract with JoWooD.
“It’s disappointing to hear of this so called termination via the press on the basis of a “get in first” tactic. This further suggests that JoWooD do not understand the terms of the contract. We are not surprised by their behavior or lack of appreciation for the goodwill Perception has afforded JoWooD on many occasions,” said Lenzo
Perception has begun personal prosecution proceedings against both the CEO, Albert Seidl and the Chairman of the Supervisory Board of JoWooD, Andreas Rudas, for the libelous comments made in their press release and will use all legal remedies available to it for the substantial monies owed to it by JoWooD.
“Perception will not allow its name to be tarnished in such a manner and view such matters extremely seriously and will always protect the reputation of our staff, our products, licensing partners and the company.”
Perception will not discuss any further the outstanding issues with JoWooD in public as legal action is underway. We look forward to the release of Stargate SG-1: The Alliance.
bah, troll used to actually mean something.
now it just gets used to describe anyone who doesn't agree with an established opinion.
now it just gets used to describe anyone who doesn't agree with an established opinion.
Do we really know that this is the real Derek Smart?
Supporter of the "Chewbacca Defense"
I wish I had seen what derek had said.
I wish more people learned to that Riley lives in some fantasy world not our own.
I wish more people learned to that Riley lives in some fantasy world not our own.
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Yea Derek you have some good will around here since hot coffee... Don't squander it! 
Hey Derek, I think it was your comment about Riley being a reason for abortion to be legal that crossed the line.
I always thought Blue should advertise comdoms on this site with the slogon 'Todays unwanted child is tomorrows forum troll'.
This comment was edited on Aug 13, 14:59.
Hey Derek, I think it was your comment about Riley being a reason for abortion to be legal that crossed the line.
I always thought Blue should advertise comdoms on this site with the slogon 'Todays unwanted child is tomorrows forum troll'.
This comment was edited on Aug 13, 14:59.
dsmart has earned some slack from me - his thoughts on hot coffee: spot on.. and anyone who is a victim of censorship is automatically my ally as well
i just wish he would license a real engine to make his games with... maybe join egosoft and pool their resources or something
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i just wish he would license a real engine to make his games with... maybe join egosoft and pool their resources or something
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Hey Derek, I think it was your comment about Riley being a reason for abortion to be legal that crossed the line.
Probably. Damn communists.
This comment was edited on Aug 13, 08:20.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living. If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them
Hey Derek, I think it was your comment about Riley being a reason for abortion to be legal that crossed the line.
This comment was edited on Aug 12, 22:10.
This comment was edited on Aug 12, 22:10.
If I may interject into all this love, I thought I might say that I am very glad that the SG-1 is apparently not dead.
Oh, and in case my post was not interesting because it didn't insult anyone, I'll add that I think that people who don't agree with me are big doo-doo faces.
Oh, and in case my post was not interesting because it didn't insult anyone, I'll add that I think that people who don't agree with me are big doo-doo faces.
"The assumption that animals are without rights, and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance, is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."
See Derek Smart the voice of reason!
I think we need a bluesnews version of celebrity boxing. Or better yet wrestling, cause it's the only soap opera where everyone wears spandex!
I think we need a bluesnews version of celebrity boxing. Or better yet wrestling, cause it's the only soap opera where everyone wears spandex!
Riley is an idiot and I called him on it. My post was probably too vehement, so it was deleted. Come to think of it, I've seen - and posted - worse posts. Dunno what happened there. Nevertheless, he is still the forum troll. And a bad one at that.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living. If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them
Its the nature of karma. And I have always been an agent of karmic acceleration. They've given me a number, but they took away my name!
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spume - its just payback for a few days ago, when you wrote a list of your percieved shortcomings of mine - no hard feelings. My ninja honor demanded satisfaction. Now I will return to my meditations.
Hey, I said I valued your opinion because you were a muso. Sure there was other stuff but it was just good-natured banter. Vicious, ugly, good-natured banter.
What do you want? A kissy face?
Hey, I said I valued your opinion because you were a muso. Sure there was other stuff but it was just good-natured banter. Vicious, ugly, good-natured banter.
What do you want? A kissy face?
You can LOL LOL LOL your ass into oblivion, because i'm done with your condescending nitpicking.You take it too personally. I wrote that because I really did laugh when you said you didn't assume anything when that was exactly what you were doing.
God you are such a condescending, self-important piece of shit.I guess it is a good thing my skin is not as thin as yours, or I might take offense at that.
Me? A troll? Ridiculous.
Oh lordy, have I really become the troll? Heaven forbid.
You aren't actually new here, you're just stupid. Buy a clue then go ignore somebody else. I don't even have a major problem with you, I just dislike Riley and you're feeding him. Don't feed the trolls. That INCLUDES me.
I am a self-confessed troll, sweetums. You'll also find me to be rationally opinionated. If you see me post something crass and I never revisit the forum - I'm trolling. If I post something erudite and witty, well it's probably not me and you're just too drunk to focus.
And even if I did say I was drunk right now, I'm not. I may lie to you. I don't usually lie about being drunk - usually there isn't any point.
Ultimately my point is: Riley does not hold an opinion, he responds to posts. If you reply to a Riley post you are feeding his masturbatrory efforts. Do you wish to feed those? If you want to argue with me you'e welcome. I've already decided you're too pathetic to care about. Now you're going to reply to this and think you've thought of something splendid.
You haven't.
Oh lordy, have I really become the troll? Heaven forbid.
You aren't actually new here, you're just stupid. Buy a clue then go ignore somebody else. I don't even have a major problem with you, I just dislike Riley and you're feeding him. Don't feed the trolls. That INCLUDES me.
I am a self-confessed troll, sweetums. You'll also find me to be rationally opinionated. If you see me post something crass and I never revisit the forum - I'm trolling. If I post something erudite and witty, well it's probably not me and you're just too drunk to focus.
And even if I did say I was drunk right now, I'm not. I may lie to you. I don't usually lie about being drunk - usually there isn't any point.
Ultimately my point is: Riley does not hold an opinion, he responds to posts. If you reply to a Riley post you are feeding his masturbatrory efforts. Do you wish to feed those? If you want to argue with me you'e welcome. I've already decided you're too pathetic to care about. Now you're going to reply to this and think you've thought of something splendid.
You haven't.
LOL! It's an assumption on your part that the statement in Perception's press release is actually true.
Fine, bud. You can LOL LOL LOL your ass into oblivion, because i'm done with your condescending nitpicking. We're both speculating here, and you're making points assuming that the JoWood press release is actually true as well. This is why i used words like "if" and "perhaps." God you are such a condescending, self-important piece of shit. You can't even have a reasonable discussion over ANYTHING with ANYONE without talking down to them. But i've already wasted enough of my Friday on you. Time to go. Spume was right, i shouldn't have fed the troll.
spume - its just payback for a few days ago, when you wrote a list of your percieved shortcomings of mine - no hard feelings. My ninja honor demanded satisfaction. Now I will return to my meditations.
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Oh, according to this interview, Perception holds the rights to the Stargate license:Yes, but the question here is does the development contract between JoWood and Perception stipulate that the license is to be transferred to JoWood. It may be. Usually it is the publisher which secures the 3rd-party license not the developer so this situation is different from the norm in that regard.
Being a major publisher, JoWood could certainly purchase a license from MGM for Stargate if it needed to do so.
This comment was edited on Aug 28, 15:09.
No it's not. I didn't assume that. It says it in their press release.LOL! It's an assumption on your part that the statement in Perception's press release is actually true.
What i don't get is that you don't even consider that Perception may be right here.First, I am almost completely certain that JoWood is in the right legally per the contract. When the publisher funds the development of the game, the contract almost always heavily favors it. Only the most respected and experienced developers get special treatment and have any bargaining power. So, JoWood's statement in its press release that it terminated the contract due to unacceptable quality is certainly believable from a legal standpoint.
Now, if you are asking me if I think that Perception is being mistreated from a moral or ethical standpoint, that I don't know. Yes, developers' horror stories about publishers are common, and there is truth to at least some of them. However, in this case JoWood appears to have spent considerable money and effort in promoting the game. For example, it was JoWood's main attraction at E3, and that was less than four months ago. It seems likely that as the scheduled release date has gotten closer, JoWood discovered that the game was nowhere near the state it expected. And, having been burned by past FPS games like Soldner, JoWood didn't want to release a game with an expensive licensed property behind it like Stargate unless the game was actually high quality and would sell well.
If JoWood has the license and not the work, the game will never happen. If Perception has the license and not the work, the game will never happen.Actually, if JoWood gets the work from Perception (which I doubt will happen for logistical not legal reasons), it will probably go to MGM and buy the necessary license to release the game. MGM most likely has the unilateral right to terminate Perception's license or to at least terminate its exclusitivity which is all that is really needed.
This comment was edited on Aug 12, 19:15.
Clearly you have never seen me post drunk, petal.And now you've become the troll. Funny how that worked out. Notice that i'm actually posting about the subject, and you're just mindlessly attacking anything that moves? Do you know what a troll is? You're not "sniping a retard," you're tripping over yourself as you try to shoot bottles with your gun pointed backwards.
To recap you're the one feeding the troll. I'm sniping at a retard.
Also, didn't you just say you're drunk right now? So by reading your posts, haven't i seen you post drunk? Hmm.
JoWood is just a little miffed over the whole ZOLDNER debacle that was a crap game coming out of the gate and the expansion put the last nail in the coffin.
Actually the expansion fixed many, many issues to the point where the game is now quite playable and enjoyable.
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