PC Gauntlet Thrown Down

The PC version of Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows has been cancelled. Word that the PC edition of the RPG remake is off the schedule comes from Midway in response to queries from 3D Gamers based on changes to their release schedule. No reasons for the decision are provided, though it seems safe to say this is related to recent revelations of the departures of John Romero (story) and J.E. Sawyer (story) from Midway, as both were involved in this project. The console versions are said to still be on track, Midway says that the PS2 and Xbox editions will be released this winter.
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Back to the topic...
Aug 4, 2005, 23:34
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Aug 4, 2005, 23:34
 
Getting back to the actual topic of this thread...

The console versions are said to still be on track,
I think someone at Midway looked at the poor sales of Area 51 on the PC and came to the conclusion that the extra costs required to port Gauntlet to the PC simply weren't worth it given the likely poor payoff. The problem is that thinking may not be limited to just Midway and may become an industry wide trend.

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 23:17
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 23:17
Aug 4, 2005, 23:17
 
Arguing w/ Riley = him wasting your time
More like you wasting his.

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 23:12
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 23:12
Aug 4, 2005, 23:12
 
The sarcasm implying that it really isn't any more difficult to replicate the console multiplayer experience with a LAN.
No, the point was to counter the statement that playing with multiple people is "always damn hard to do on a PC." It isn't (at least not always), and many people including me play games that way on a regular basis. I wrote or implied nothing about the difficulty of doing it in comparison to a console.

The latter two, from my perspective anyway, are a whole hell of a lot harder than simply plugging in another controller.
That is why in the same reply I also mentioned using multiple USB gamepads on the same PC.

Where I believe you go wrong is in trying to argue that there is nothing that a console does better than a PC.
I never wrote that nor did I imply it. However, since you brought it up, what a console does better than a PC is deliver a generally more simplified gaming experience from setup to gameplay. Whether or not the user finds that "better" depends upon his personal preference for entertainment. Some people like their games more complicated and some even find getting the systems up and running more enjoyable than actually playing the games on them. Those people do not see simpler as better.

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 21:18
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 21:18
Aug 4, 2005, 21:18
 nin
 

Arguing w/ Riley = him wasting your time...

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 20:52
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 20:52
Aug 4, 2005, 20:52
 
Your original argument was this:

Yes, it's so hard to network four PC's together to play in the same game.

The sarcasm implying that it really isn't any more difficult to replicate the console multiplayer experience with a LAN.

You support the argument with the following details:

You play them over the internet, you provide the PC's when you ask them over, or you tell them to bring a laptop.

The first is a seperate experience entirely from having three buddies in the same room playing the same game. The latter two, from my perspective anyway, are a whole hell of a lot harder than simply plugging in another controller.

How exactly does that support your argument here?

Edit: You seem to be suggesting that PC gaming is a lot better than console gaming, and I agree. Where I believe you go wrong is in trying to argue that there is nothing that a console does better than a PC. In this case there definitely is.
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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 19:45
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Aug 4, 2005, 19:45
 
No, but trying to find four people willing to cart their shit over to your place just to play fucking GAUNTLET is slightly harder to do.
Which is why you don't do that. You play them over the internet, you provide the PC's when you ask them over, or you tell them to bring a laptop.

And few PC gamers I know have a gamepad anyways.
Gamepads are relatively cheap and easy to find. It's worth the modest investment. If you play sports games, it's a must.

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 19:43
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Aug 4, 2005, 19:43
 
If you don't live in a dorm/apartment it certainly can be.
With the prevalence of wireless networking, homes with multiple networked PC's, and relatively inexpensive laptop computers, having PC's for network gaming is just not a problem for many people.


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Aug 4, 2005, 19:22
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Aug 4, 2005, 19:22
 
Somebody please make a 4 player co-op God of War game!

still waiting for some dirtbag to return it the local Blockbuster so I can rent it.

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Aug 4, 2005, 18:31
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Aug 4, 2005, 18:31
 nin
 

Hellbinder, is that you? You got rid of that god-awful sig...Congrats!

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Aug 4, 2005, 17:59
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Aug 4, 2005, 17:59
 
just for memory lane..

here is a nice quote from one of the Daikatana reviews

Around the third or fourth time that one of the sidekicks shoots and kills itself, you or the other sidekick, you will probably be wondering why your mouse hand is sore and bleeding. Don't worry, that's only your own teethmarks on there



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Aug 4, 2005, 17:22
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Aug 4, 2005, 17:22
 
Somebody please make a 4 player co-op God of War game!

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Aug 4, 2005, 16:53
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Aug 4, 2005, 16:53
 
My guess? Romero put in a bunch of features that sounded cool on paper but were enormously difficult to implement, and actually added nothing whatsoever to the gameplay (and in many cases significantly detracted from it).

Oh wait, that was Daika....

I still don't understand how he got a major company to hire him....

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 16:29
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 16:29
Aug 4, 2005, 16:29
 
You guys talk like you've never heard of a LAN party. I LAN almost every weekend, not a big deal.

"OOOOH GAHD IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO PUT MY MONITOR IN A CAR... Oh boo hoo."


You, sir, are one hardcore nerd.

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 16:28
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 16:28
Aug 4, 2005, 16:28
 
Yes, it's so hard to network four PC's together to play in the same game.

Even if you are talking about 4 people on the same PC, four USB gamepads (and a hub if you need enough ports) do the trick quite easily.


No, but trying to find four people willing to cart their shit over to your place just to play fucking GAUNTLET is slightly harder to do. And few PC gamers I know have a gamepad anyways.

Creston


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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 16:27
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 16:27
Aug 4, 2005, 16:27
 
You guys talk like you've never heard of a LAN party. I LAN almost every weekend, not a big deal.

"OOOOH GAHD IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO PUT MY MONITOR IN A CAR... Oh boo hoo."

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 16:20
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Aug 4, 2005, 16:20
 
Yes, it's so hard to network four PC's together to play in the same game.


If you don't live in a dorm/apartment it certainly can be.

Flat panels make it easier, but have you ever tried packing a 19+" CRT into a car to go to someone's house? Not very fun. Then comes the trouble of finding an area to lay them all out and have enough power outlets.
And then you lose the fun of being able to hit them because they're next to you on the couch.

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Re: Out Of The Shadows.....
Aug 4, 2005, 16:14
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Aug 4, 2005, 16:14
 
Has there ever been a really good remake of a classic game?
"Get Medieval" is a funny remake of Gauntlet for the PC that's a lot of fun especially as a party game. The voice-overs are hilarious.


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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 16:11
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 16:11
Aug 4, 2005, 16:11
 
Gauntlet is a game you have to play with multiple people and that's always damn hard to do on a PC anyways.
Yes, it's so hard to network four PC's together to play in the same game.

Even if you are talking about 4 people on the same PC, four USB gamepads (and a hub if you need enough ports) do the trick quite easily.


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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 16:06
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Aug 4, 2005, 16:06
 
Gamer needs something good to play, badly. Is anything going to be out this month?

Nope. We're at that time of year again when nothing comes out for three months, followed by every developer / publisher, LIKE A BUNCH OF BRAINDEAD FUCKING MONKEYS, releasing all their top titles in September / October, so THEY CAN ALL COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER.

I swear, the gaming business has the most fucking retarded mongrels in charge of ANY entertainment sector. Do you ever see two blockbuster movies come out in the same weekend? No you don't. Why? Because neither studio WANTS TO COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER.

Bravo gaming industry. How you've ever managed to grow so huge with such utter shitwigs in charge is completely beyond all comprehension.

/yearly rant

Creston

Edit : Funny enough, PCGamer actually had a great article talking to some studios about why they were doing PC Games, and I can't remember which guy it was who said this, but he basically stated that while they sell fewer numbers (because it's a smaller market), a lot of that is made up by the fact they don't have to pay any fees to Sony / Nintendo / Microsoft for every copy of their game they sell. Which makes perfect sense.

So PC Gaming isn't going to die. Don't worry.

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Re: meh
Aug 4, 2005, 15:54
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Re: meh Aug 4, 2005, 15:54
Aug 4, 2005, 15:54
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I just bought a copy of Jade Empire for the xbox to satisfy my single player needs (multiplayer -> bf2). Althoug it is of course a dumbed down console RPG (can anyone do a baldur's gate 1 again please?) it's pretty entertaining. Guess it's a good thing gauntlet for the PC died.
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