Tank T-72 Demo

An English playable Tank T-72 Balkans on Fire! Demo is now available, offering the chance to sample the armored combat game based on the Yugoslavian Civil War. The demo offers three levels and a resource on Russian military gear for a 192 MB download, available on 3D Gamers, FileFront, Gameguru Mania, Gamer's Hell, and Worthplaying.
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Any good?
Jul 15, 2005, 13:06
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Any good? Jul 15, 2005, 13:06
Jul 15, 2005, 13:06
DDI
 
Any good?

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What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 13:22
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What a terrible idea Jul 15, 2005, 13:22
Jul 15, 2005, 13:22
 
Wow... this is such an aweful idea for a game. Why not "September 11th Terrorist Flight Sim?". What kind of morons make a videogame based on the adventures of international war criminals? Is there going to be an "execute the village children" minigame? I hope people will take 10 seconds before they download and play this demo to look up the history of the Balkans conflict.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 13:29
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Re: What a terrible idea Jul 15, 2005, 13:29
Jul 15, 2005, 13:29
 
Nope if it were EA games then maybe:
"execute the village children minigame" will be apart of the very first expansion pack according to source at EA games....

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 13:34
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Re: What a terrible idea Jul 15, 2005, 13:34
Jul 15, 2005, 13:34
 
Wow... this is such an aweful idea for a game. Why not "September 11th Terrorist Flight Sim?". What kind of morons make a videogame based on the adventures of international war criminals? Is there going to be an "execute the village children" minigame? I hope people will take 10 seconds before they download and play this demo to look up the history of the Balkans conflict.
There are many WW2 games. In them are Nazis who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity. Yet we still play games based in that time and area. Furthermore there were Germans and Nazis who didn't participate in the war crimes nor crimes against humanity. Just as there were soldiers in the Balkans who didn't participate in the war crimes nor in the crimes against humanity.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 13:44
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Re: What a terrible idea Jul 15, 2005, 13:44
Jul 15, 2005, 13:44
 
I gave it a try. It has a kinda M1 Tank Platoon feel but I think they have made things a little too complicated. I should not have to tell my crew to load the cannon.

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UHhh
Jul 15, 2005, 15:13
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Jul 15, 2005, 15:13
 
yall realize this is suppossed to be a simulation right. Hey it also works as propaganda too.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 16:04
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Jul 15, 2005, 16:04
 
haha #2 what are you smoking? Pass the joint!

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 16:41
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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 17:14
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Re: What a terrible idea Jul 15, 2005, 17:14
Jul 15, 2005, 17:14
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What kind of morons make a videogame based on the adventures of international war criminals? Is there going to be an "execute the village children" minigame? I hope people will take 10 seconds before they download and play this demo to look up the history of the Balkans conflict.

You may want to heed your own advice.

The ethnic cleansing was not exclusively Serbian. The Croats and Muslim Bosnians were commiting the same atrocities, albeit not on the same scale as the Serbs. As was mentioned before, not all Serb units were war criminals.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 18:04
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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 19:07
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Jul 15, 2005, 19:07
 
#10 moron.

civil war is alwyas messy and bloody.there is no winner.It is completly different from WWII or any other war.so i think i can understand what #2 post was trying to say.

i am not a sim gamer so i have no idea what is so great about russian cold war era tank model.it seems to me even in game no one wants to put russia as oponent,their power is done.media is more interested in russian mafia than russian military power.


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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 20:16
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Jul 15, 2005, 20:16
 
Civil war is.

The Bosnian war was as well.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 15, 2005, 23:50
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Jul 15, 2005, 23:50
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No Man's Land is a good movie, I suggest you see it.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 16, 2005, 02:41
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Jul 16, 2005, 02:41
 
I'd like to thank Kegel for being by FAR the biggest ASSH_LE in this thread. I would imagine it would be hard to be THAT stupid, but Kegel, you make it look easy. Congratulations buddy. Oh yeah, one more thing - go kill yourself.

As for the rest of you, I'm going to have to go against the majority here and side, somewhat, with SG22 ... Yes, there have been many PC games based on WWII, but they came out DECADES after that war had ended. The Balkans' conflict isn't exactly ancient history. To me, that makes it a little different ... Most forms of popular entertainment based on specific conflicts don't appear until years later, mostly because the death and suffering and controversy surrounding those conflicts are still too raw to be sanded down into "entertainment" (This was why there were virtually no Hollywood movies made about the Vietnam War, for instance, while that war was still being waged. "The Green Berets" was a rare exception.)

As for those of you who might want to downplay Serbian atrocities - yes, the Croats and Muslims killed some innocent people as well, but by far the most blame rests with the Serbs. It is the Serbs we have to thank for the term "ethnic cleansing." And just as many ordinary Germans were complicit in the Nazi horrors, so too were many of the Serbian people. In fact I'd argue that a majority of the Serbian people think their countrymen did nothing wrong in that conflict, and continue to blame everyone but the Serbs for what happened ...

"No Mans Land" is a good movie, and demonstrates how utterly useless the UN was when it came to doing anything, but it certainly doesn't absolve the Serbs for the majority of the responsibility.


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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 16, 2005, 02:53
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Jul 16, 2005, 02:53
 
Wow... this is such an aweful idea for a game. Why not "September 11th Terrorist Flight Sim?". What kind of morons make a videogame based on the adventures of international war criminals? Is there going to be an "execute the village children" minigame? I hope people will take 10 seconds before they download and play this demo to look up the history of the Balkans conflict.

True. This is why I'm unable to enjoy BF2 atm. The game forces you to play as either an imperialistic oil stealing US empire or the human rights repressing commmie regime of China. Of course the fictional MEC isn't a paragon of virtues either, I bet they're a bunch of Jews hating, women oppressing zealots.

Times are tough for a politically correct gamer such as myself. I turned to the UN game for the love I need but my team just stood around and pass sanctions after sanctions while the other team went on an ethic cleansing and WMD stockpiling rampage.

Oh well, maybe I'll ask Hillary Clinton what game she's playing atm...

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 16, 2005, 03:01
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Jul 16, 2005, 03:01
 

Zetler wrote: "Times are tough for a politically correct gamer such as myself. I turned to the UN game for the love I need but my team just stood around and pass sanctions after sanctions while the other team went on an ethic cleansing and WMD stockpiling rampage."


The UN definitely has a terrible record when it comes to stopping ethnic cleansing, no doubt about it. But if your comment about "WMD stockpiling rampage" is supposed to be in reference to Iraq and Hussein, then, in case you haven't noticed, the UN was RIGHT, and Bush Inc. were dead WRONG ... as in in 1700 dead U.S. soldiers and zero WMDs wrong ...

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 16, 2005, 08:27
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No subject
Jul 16, 2005, 09:27
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Jul 16, 2005, 09:27
 
It's a game. I didn't hear "Oh don't play GTA (any of them) because it forces you to kill, maim and destroy people and have no respect for the law". Stop being idiots and play a GAME.

Also that argument for vietnam/WW2 etc. games coming out long after the actual event was because there were no computer games back then, and the ones that were around consisted of about 30 pixels. Sheesh, think before you speak.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 16, 2005, 11:25
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Jul 16, 2005, 11:25
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As for those of you who might want to downplay Serbian atrocities - yes, the Croats and Muslims killed some innocent people as well, but by far the most blame rests with the Serbs.

I was not downplaying what they did, nor was I trying to shift blame. My point was that the situation was more muddied than the cut-and-dried view presented. Unfortunately most in the West can only comprehend "good guy, bad guy" scenarios. It was far more complicated than "just" that.

I caught the tail end of the war in Croatia when I was deployed to support it in mid 1995. I saw the effects first hand. And I'm not a stranger to complicated and unpopular conflicts, as I was in Mog two years prior. It's hell and there's a lot more grey than black or white.

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Re: What a terrible idea
Jul 16, 2005, 11:31
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Jul 16, 2005, 11:31
 
jebus,all these political view the core question is forgotten.so i will voice with the first poster.

is it any good?

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