I tried to pick up the game today and was told it's been delayed in shipping. Tried Best Buy, GameStop, EB and Circuit City. Anyone else have trouble? I'm in Southern Cali.

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i don't have one of these, but it seems people have found a way to play this game on a gf4: http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/276956/?s=

it seems to have some probs, though.

i also saw a "gf4 fix" for bf2 on a very popular bittorrent site (i'm not dling this game btw... i was just seeing how many people were seeding/leeching it at this point - i'll be buying this just as soon as i can find a job)

Define "behind the curve?" Since when did you have to max out games to be able to enjoy them? Everyone is saying I can get a Radeon 9700 for less than $100. Why only take such a baby-step towards a full upgrade? And more importantly, why the hell should I spend $100 to buy a card to play a game that looks worse than games (Doom 3, Far Cry, HL-2) I can play with my *current card*?! If this game actually looked better than any of those I would understand it.

Yes I'm very stubborn, but if iD, Valve, and Crytek can do it, why can't EA? But forced obsolescence just because it's time? To paraphrase Michael Bolton, why should *I( change? They're the ones who suck.

"While I can play graphically superior games like Doom 3 and Far Cry, I cannot play this graphically outdated game. With this ignorant move, they are driving me away from PC gaming for good"

You know, if you game on a PC and think that you won't be spending a minimum of several hundred dollars on it AT LEAST every year and a half then you need to go buy a console. Oh wait, you won't be playing the newest games on that either because every few years you have to buy another console. If you're running a Geforce 4 then you are 2, almost 3 generations behind the curve and you're surprised that a game FINALLY came along that it wouldn't run? Get a grip.

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I could go on... It's really good. I've never found leaning around corners to be much use in deathmatch, however in this game lighting is something you can use to your advantage and I lean around corners a lot in hopes of nailing someone.

You will die quickly and often, this isn't the style of game where one player can run around grabbing health packs and stay alive for a long time, you will die, a lot. Some weapons seem overpowered like the machine gun, just point in the general direction and you'll probably nail someone. But after you get used to the fast and furious pace it becomes a lot of fun.

I agree. Overpowered or not I still have a ball with it. Its simple deathmatch, people need to stop overanalyzing and enjoy it for what it is. If you don't like it, there are a literally hundreds of other less over-the-top games available.

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Yeah, Despite EA's bullshit with the demo servers, and the fact that the config screens are probably worse than in any game for the past 7 years, I'm gonna pick this up. The actual gameplay is simply a blast.

Still, I only want to play it to kill time until ET:QW comes out. Lets hope they do that game right.

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Now, I'll come right out and say this, I might be wrong about the following, but if I'm right... well I am.

For those of you complaining about the lack of support for your video cards, lets examine the facts. If you are using a GF4MX you should have been screwed out the gate. I'm sure most of you know this, but the GF4MX is not a GF4 class product at all, and the core is actually based on the older Geforce 2 cores. This of course means the core you are using, is based on hardware that doesn't support pixel shaders in any way, shape or form.

When Nvidia launched the GF3, it included support for PS model 1.1 and 1.3. You'll see tho, that isn't relevent either. The Geforce 4s came out, and still only supported 1.3 shaders. Even though both GF3 and GF4 cards are DirectX 8.1 cards, they didn't support 1.4.

You'll notice that the min requirements are as low as a 8500 on the ATI side of things, as it supported 1.4 shaders, or Advanced as they were called at the time. This means you're card must at least support 1.4, at least from what I can gather.

While it isn't great that they left out a large segment of the market, you can't obviously expect developers to continue to drive graphics exellence on old hardware. This is how technology works. If you want to buy a console go for it, but remember, after 4-5 years, you'll still have to buy a new one of those.

As mentioned above, you can find great DX9.0 cards at rock bottom prices right now. Nvidia already dropped prices on their entry level product, the 6200 with TurboCache last week in preperation for the G70 class cards. Those are sub 100 dollar products that will run the game. Mind you, you'll have to turn off most of the goodies to get a good framerate. Lol, but hell, you've been doing that for YEARS with that OLD GF4 card anyways.

Here is a great article I Googled up that will bring you up to speed on the timeline of Pixel shaders and what cards support what.

http://academic.evergreen.edu/s/schhun06/videocard_guide.html

Enjoy!

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Why? Why? Want to warez it? Hahah trust me:) people are buying it!

No one buy this game, I hear that it requires you to install this intrusive program, that has to validate a single player game online.

“Preparing to play Battlefield 2”

Back to FEAR:

Yes, as mentioned, all weapons are instant death at any distance. I don't know why someone would use the shotgu, if your first shot misses you're toast before you cock it again. Much like the plasma gun and rocket launcher - you never get a second shot off.

H2H is useless, as you never get close enough. I had one slide kick kill, and was never touched by anyone else. Punching/jump kicking is fairly useless. People run back as fast as you run out them, and they'll take you out with bullets before you are close enough to use it. Similarly, if you're holding down the trigger as you run, they'll die before you get to them.

'Nades are equally useless. They're fun to throw around a corner and hope, but if someone sees you they'll kill you before you manage to toss it. The animation takes longer than going from 100 health and any armor to dead takes. Which brings up another interesting point - armor seems to do nothing.

The only time nades really work is when you're health is so low you know you're screwed, so you try to pull the pin before you die, hoping the guy runs over your dead body right when it goes off.

Agree witht he FEAR comments. The weapon damage output is waaay too high.

Personnally I think if damage was reduced and you had the option of upping the decal limit, then you could have some very cool one on one firefights where you trash rooms before one of you is the winner.

I think thats part of the problem, in FEAR there is no adrenaline rush of winning a fight, because it ends so fast that you really dont feel like youve acomplished anything.

I started up a server and took on my brother for a while. At one point he turned a corner and I had my back to him. He started firing and I managed to twitch spin around and start spraying with the SMG, I must have got 5 shots of before I was dead, and most of those were before he was even in my field of view. Hows that fun?

We had a long conversation after that, in game, and basically we came to the conclusion that without a more prolonged firefight, where you use ducking, cover, grenades and different weapons for different situations, one on one deathmatchs really arnt that fun. Which we thought was a shame as trashing tons of glass and walls in a huge firefight using the FEAR engine would be really cool...

As for BF2 im debating wether to pick it up, I probably will as I like the squad combat, but im wondering about the longevity of the game...


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@Tumbler:

1. All FEAR weapons are death at any distance. They all do such insane amounts of damage, there's absolutely no point in using any other gun besides the SMG or occasionally the assault rifle.

2. That little bubble effect has appeared in other games already. And the rest you describe pretty much mirrors every other grenade in every other game ever made.

3. The slow-mo injector makes you go slow when you use it, too.

4. Melee attacks should be cool, you're right. Jump kicks killing people, maybe. Slide kicks that kill in one shot, absolutely absurd. Breaking an ankle should not kill me.

5. The remote and proximity mines are this game's only real redeeming feature. And it isn't enough to redeem the rest.

I've never known amazon to ship games earlier than EB, so I don't order form them unless the game is already out. I either go EB, direct from the developer/publisher (if possible), or maybe gamestop if I want the game asap.

EDIT: mine was sent out yesterday from EBgames, overnight

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So shipping STARTED today? Are they shipping to the entire country over night, cause if not I don't see how it will be available tomorrow.


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Anyone else order BF2 (DVD version) from amazon like 3 months ago with next day air and not get it today or not get email an that it hasn't shipped? Cause like this sucks, I got a nerve to go out and buy it at EB and cancel the order. Normally amazon is good about getting an item to me the same day it comes out if I do next day air pre ordered.

When you're installing and you're prompted for the BF2 serial number, it tells you to look on the back of the CD/DVD case. It may not be there, at least for me it wasn't.

Look for the serial number to be printed on the back of the manual, printed at the top.

The storyline header for this thread is wrong.

BF2 does NOT sport a spiffy new engine. It is the same '42 engine that has been modified.

Rumor has it Fry's Electronics will have it for $39.99 tomorrow. Anywhere else cheaper?

That is what Monday's paper said here, I am keeping the page to bring with me just in case tommorrow they don't have it advertised anywhere.

Unpaid Employee and Fanboy of DICE and anything BF2.

Ok, guy under me who things F.E.A.R demo on FP kicks ass is on crack. That was a POS demo right off the bat.

It helps when you back up your unsolicited opinions with a reason. Its a plain DM MP demo. It looks good, the opponents die when you shoot 'em, am I missing something?

I can tell u what I really like about it.

1. Shotgun is death up close. You walk into someone and get off a shot at close range and your target will be lucky to land in one piece. Sometimes his whole body just becomes a cloud of red mist.

2. Grenades. Everyone gets one grenade to start with. If you can see it when it explodes there is a effect similar to a slow motion explosion in action movies where a bubble is visible for a brief second. An awesome effect. Depending on how close you are when the grenade goes off you screen will shake and things will go blurry for a moment. Hitting someone with the grenade has sends parts flying everywhere.

3. Slow Motion Injector. There is a deathmatch mode where you can pick up an injection gun, while holding it you glow purple and are real attract a lot of attention. If it can charge before you die and you ativate it, everyone but you goes into slow motion and you get to move at normal speed. IT'S AWESOME. But it's very hard to stay alive long enough for it to charge.

4. H2H attacks. Melee attacks are something that until this game I rarely saw used online. You can punch, and do some type of flying kick that usually knocks an opponent out. Is very cool.

5. Mines and Remote controlled grenades. You can pick up remote grenades and throw them on the walls, then when players come round you can detonate them. Mines pop up off the floor and detonate with a fiery blast.

I could go on... It's really good. I've never found leaning around corners to be much use in deathmatch, however in this game lighting is something you can use to your advantage and I lean around corners a lot in hopes of nailing someone.

You will die quickly and often, this isn't the style of game where one player can run around grabbing health packs and stay alive for a long time, you will die, a lot. Some weapons seem overpowered like the machine gun, just point in the general direction and you'll probably nail someone. But after you get used to the fast and furious pace it becomes a lot of fun.

Unpaid Employee and Fanboy of DICE and anything BF2.

I would be looking forward to this, but EA and Dice decided to alienate a large percentage of game players by not supporting "older" video cards. While I can play graphically superior games like Doom 3 and Far Cry, I cannot play this graphically outdated game. With this ignorant move, they are driving me away from PC gaming for good. Why be FORCED to spend $300 on a video card (and another $300 for a new CPU/mobo) every 2.5 years when I can spend $300 on a console that lasts for five?

I am extremely bitter about this, but screw all of you.

Why spend that kind of money? Good question. How about for better games to play?


BTW, you don't need to spen $300 on a video card to run BF2. 9700Pro's can be had used for $100, or you can get a 6600Gt for around $160 to $170 shipped. You are way over stating the cost.

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