25 to Life Under Fire

Senator Schumer takes aim at violent video game (thanks Joystiq and Mike Martinez) has word that Charles Schumer (D), senior Senator from the great state of New York, is asking stores not to stock 25 to Life, and is calling for Microsoft to cancel their licensing agreements for the game. This is based on content that the Senator finds objectionable in the crime-themed game, though it is not actually available.
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Jun 21, 2005, 14:23
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Jun 21, 2005, 14:23
 
Kindly demonstrate how the democratic Senator is being influenced directly by any church anywhere on this matter

I think the burden of proof falls on the "religious whackjobs" not the anti-religious whackjobs.

Besides, unsubstantiated claims against organized religion are status quo on these forums. Expecting otherwise is a little naive.
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Jun 21, 2005, 12:19
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Like anyone really listens to Chucky Schumer anyway.

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hey, it's not like they're threatening to pull the plug on a braindead private citizen. the "religious whackjobs" are busy blowing themselves up in the middle east or rewriting science books here in the U.S.; this is just some nanny-state enthusiast trying to make a name for himself, and too scared to take on the Grand Theft Auto franchise.

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So many of them are run by their churches down there (yet there's supposedly Church & State) that I don't know how anything gets done because every piece of legislation will offend som religious whackjob's sensibilities

Congratulations, it only took 21 posts before someone pulled another 'fact' out of their ass (Oh wait, I can't use that word with you, can I?) and now blames this on the "religious whackjobs" again.
Kindly demonstrate how the democratic Senator is being influenced directly by any church anywhere on this matter.

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Jun 21, 2005, 09:17
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Jun 21, 2005, 09:17
 
I wonder how many people die because of alchohol compared to those that die because of games?

Yeah, but alcohol's universally popular and accepted so it's OK.

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This is just the Democrats trying to jump on the "We are upright, morally sound, sleeping-next-to-a-bible, southern value loving people" bandwagon.

That just seems like American politicians in general. So many of them are run by their churches down there (yet there's supposedly Church & State) that I don't know how anything gets done because every piece of legislation will offend som religious whackjob's sensibilities. Though my country's (Canada's) political system is certainly not without its flaws, we generally don't have a lot of religious influence in our politicians, at least not one they flaunt during press conferences.

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Jun 21, 2005, 09:14
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u think microsoft will comply?

You mean like they complied with the DOJ's anti-trust ruling? Nah.

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Jun 21, 2005, 09:12
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am not american, but I always wonder why in cases such as this one there is no (however small) real-world uproar of concerned people. By this I mean: why not get together (via ACLU or whatever), and start writing to newspapers and games shops about how dangerous this or that senator is because he tries to cut the freedom of US citizens for his campaigns or something similar

Mostly because the people who actually care about this are gamers. Iow, lazy slobs who don't really want to do a whole lot, besides maybe bitch about it on a website somewhere. Actually WRITING to a senator about something, holy shit, that takes a lot of effort!
This is something I've told quite a few of the armchair quarterbacks that (used to) frequent these boards, if you're REALLY that upset about it, get out of your fucking chair and DO something.

Ofcourse, they never do.

Also, the ACLU really only seems to care about shitting on Christians these days, so this is probably not edgy enough for them or something.

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I wonder how many people die because of alchohol compared to those that die because of games?

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Jun 21, 2005, 08:54
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The video game industry has the International Game Developers Association which fights back these kinds of cases.

http://www.igda.org

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Jun 21, 2005, 08:28
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but after seeing people sue McDonalds for making them FAT (and winning)

Who won? I thought the cases got threw out and a law was passed so no further actions could be brought.

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Pre-emptive cencorship...isn't that just what made the USA the country it is today?

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I am not american, but I always wonder why in cases such as this one there is no (however small) real-world uproar of concerned people. By this I mean: why not get together (via ACLU or whatever), and start writing to newspapers and games shops about how dangerous this or that senator is because he tries to cut the freedom of US citizens for his campaigns or something similar. Use their methods. Make it an open letter, get some none-nerd to write it (so it doesn't sound like some mad 16 year old who did indeed play too much GTA wrote it), send it to the NYT nd the like, and wait and see.

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Jun 21, 2005, 03:04
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This is just the Democrats trying to jump on the "We are upright, morally sound, sleeping-next-to-a-bible, southern value loving people" bandwagon.

I think politicians like this guy (And Lieberman) are actually sitting behind their desk right now spanking it to midget pr0n, but somehow think that's ok and an as-of-yet unreleased "Violent video game" isn't. They're all hypocrites anyway.

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we find so many things objectionable but there they are.this is just stupid.

u think microsoft will comply?

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I'm gonna sound like an idiot here, but that case was fairly justified. McDonalds had found that keeping their coffee extra hot meant people drank less of it, so they kept it at skalding temperatures just so they could sell smaller sizes and what have you..

yeh but its so much easier to follow the herd and just join the chorus!!

you dont even have to think!! yes!

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Thanks Blue for using the "D" next to the senator's name. No diatribes against the evil "R"s yet.

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Jun 21, 2005, 01:40
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More on the McDonald's coffee:
http://lawandhelp.com/q298-2.htm

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Jun 21, 2005, 01:35
 
Oh, and lets not forget when that lady spilled McDonalds coffee on herself, then sued McDonalds because the coffee burned her and there wasn't a label on the fucking cup saying her COFFEE WAS HOT.

I'm gonna sound like an idiot here, but that case was fairly justified. McDonalds had found that keeping their coffee extra hot meant people drank less of it, so they kept it at skalding temperatures just so they could sell smaller sizes and what have you..
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Jun 21, 2005, 01:26
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"You can't sue people for fiction just because someone copies what they see in the movies or play. You won't win in the U.S."

Normally I'd agree with you... but after seeing people sue McDonalds for making them FAT (and winning), I wouldn't doubt if one day someone wins a case against violent games, as sad as that is.

Oh, and lets not forget when that lady spilled McDonalds coffee on herself, then sued McDonalds because the coffee burned her and there wasn't a label on the fucking cup saying her COFFEE WAS HOT.

Amazing how these people sue over such things and win.

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