To each his own, but I happen to LOVE the smell of pot! Besides, you smell someone whose been "legally" drinking all day?
True, a drunkard is almost just as annoying to me as someone who smokes pot. There is one big difference though. The smell of alcohol wafting out of some guy's mouth is not going to affect my health. Pot smoke will. To me, that is a HUGE difference.you don't force your morals on me and I won't blow pot smoke in your face.
Very smart idea. Is it because I smoke pot that I am a "dipshit"?
No, and I didn't intend this as any kind of personal post to you or anything. I had written the post, then afterwards seen that had said that you would blow holes in any argument, so I added the bit at the end that told you to knock yourself out. So it wasn't intended as any kind of statement about you.I happen to live a very happy, successful life and I provide a very comfortable living for a family of four. So where does the dipshit comment come from? And why is it assumed that I "smoke myself senseless"? Three or four tokes is usually enough for me and I am far from sensless afterwards.
Exactly, which is why I didn't apply this to you. I have no idea what you do, or how you do it. The dipshit comment stems from the fact that I've personally KNOWN people who basically did nothing for days on end but smoke themselves senseless.
There is a HUGE difference between someone having one (which I still don't approve of, but like you said, it's your life, do with it what you will) and someone smoking ten a day (and even more. I've seen guys smoke through 200 grams of pot in a single afternoon / evening)
Two of them were good friends of mine, so I accepted it, but I still called them dipshits for it. If you feel you need or want a joint for whatever reason, fine, but they were taking it way beyond what anyone would consider normal. One of them actually had a long talk with me about it afterwards, since he and I had been friends since we were 4 (we were about 20 or so when this happened), and he really cut down on it, as he realised it was getting out of hand.
The other one kept doing it for quite awhile, until he eventually also quit. Several of the other guys there, with whom I only had a passing acquaintance, for all I know still smoke themselves stupid as of this day."Fucked up reason"? My reasons are that - mine. Who are you to judge?
To you, I'm not judging, to the people I was referring to, in my opinion you have to be pretty fucked up to smoke that much pot. I would feel similar to someone who doesn't just get drunk, but who drinks himself completely into insensibility.The main problem - as your own post illustrates - is a heavily biased opinion held by what I considered a brain-washed public.
Here in the states maybe. I, however, am NOT brainwashed. I have seen, FIRST HAND, UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL what too much pot smoking will do to people, and how it affects anyone unfortunate enough to be caught in that smoke. Obviously, I could have been smarter and just left, but we were having a good time and so I wrestled my way through it a few times, until I finally said enough is enough, because I was really worried about what all that fucking smoke was doing to my lungs.As for your statements about "PAYING FOR JUNKIES TO GET THEIR FUCKING FIX", I never advocated anything of the sort.
I know, and I didn't say that in reference to anything you said. I just stated that legalizing drugs means you legalize addiction to them. I mean, if you legalize alcohol, and help people addicted to alcohol, you have to do the same thing for junkies. And believe me, the LARGE majority of the junkies in Holland DON'T WANT TO get rid of their addiction, they just love having that fucking bus come by and give them their weekly fucking heroine and whatever else it is they're addicted to.
Legalizing pot seems a small thing, but it's a step towards basically legalizing /accepting every kind of drug. (note, btw, Holland only legalized "soft drugs", under which they include such darlings as Xtc, Liquid Xtc, Red Lebanon etc. Most of which can EASILY kill you. Hard Drugs are not legal, but are "condoned". Which is basically the same thing.)Let me put it this way - If I choose to smoke/consume marijuana in the privacy of my own home, tell me, who are the victims of this supposed crime I have committed and how exactly have they been victimized?
I said that if someone choses to do this in his own home and it bother nobody else, no shirt off my back.
I do hope your kids (since I'm assuming you have kids, family of fours) feel the same way, and that they are not suffering from second hand smoke. But that's really your problem, not mine.
Again, I wasn't talking to you specifically, apologies that it appeared that way.
As for the supporting terrorism claim, I have no detailed knowledge to be able to say either yes or no on that subject, so I just won't get into that. I can't be arsed to do ten weeks worth of research into it.
I'm sure that if you look hard enough, there's probably some truth to it.
edit : actually, I do have one more pointAnyway, to address your points, it doesn't really seem like you're making an argument for making pot illegal
No, I'm making an argument for NOT making it legal, because it will get out of hand. But I'm also on the "ban all smoking" bandwagon. You can do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't directly or indirectly affect me, my health, and how I enjoy my environment.
Smoking is a fucking cancer, not just the cause of one, but a cancer on society as well. I don't know if the number is true, but if FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE REALLY
die of second hand smoke every year, shouldn't it be fucking outlawed??
If someone wants to smoke, and kill himself that way, go right ahead. One less moron on the world. It becomes MY problem when that fucking smoke reaches MY nose.
In restaurants, I will specifically state, NO SMOKING WHATSOEVER. And then they'll give me a table five feet away from the fucking smoking section.
I will refuse to sit there (mostly because my wife has asthma, but also because I cannot enjoy my food while smelling that fucking smoke) and if they don't give me a table as far away as possible from that damn smoking section, I will simply walk out of the restaurant.
That's the one thing California has done right, in my opinion, banning smoking from all public places. I can't wait for them to do the same thing in Oklahoma.This comment was edited on Jun 7, 12:44.