It's an OK game, but if you're already into WoW it's probably not going to change your mind.

I don't know why people say it's not like Diablo. It's exactly like Diablo. It is Diablo 3.

I think the problem is people keep using phrases as "no monthly fee" and "MMORPG" when they describe Guild Wars. You're comparing it to something it is not and that's where the flames begin.

TrOn--great post.

Maybe I'll give this sucker another look in February. I just wasn't impressed with what I saw.

I do agree with most of your points.

I especially like #4 and # 10.

It would be nice, even though I personally don't like this game so far, to see this game put a hurting on the pay to play MMORPG's and make them either go free or bring their price point down to, lets say, 4.95 a month or so.

I also like the point #3, makes the game rely a lot more on strategy than who has the most skills.

DAOC was ruined for me by Trials of Atlantis, for I don't have the huge amounts of time to pour into a game. I'd like to spend maybe 8 hours a week playing and be able to at least somewhat compete against some of the other players.

Nefilim maybe I do just suck.

And maybe your a retard.

I don't suck, and I don't figure your a retard. I'm sorry my opinion of this game hurt your little feelings. Obviously if my opinion isn't the same as yours you can't handle it.

Like I said, maybe you just suck?

I've met a bunch of great people playing in the BWE's, and have had some awesome groups. If you group with a bunch of f'n morons, obviously it's not going to be a whole lot of fun...

Things are changing a lot from month to month, and it's getting better and better.

It's massively multiplayer, and it's an RPG... so I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a MMORPG... It definitely doesnt follow the cookie cutter mold other MMORPG's have, and thank god for that. You don't have to play x amount of time or reach level x to have fun. There is no level grind, and it takes SKILL to win at PvP, not just time.

LarryLaffer: It's not like Diablo. Let me tell you why.

1. ArenaNet (a very talented team, some ex-Blizzard guys that worked on WoW for a while, Starcraft, Warcraft, Diablo .. you name it). They are constantly in contact with the alphas and the community, giving us access to their commands/servers, joking with us and are overall really cool people. I can't name a company that is cooler then them.

2. No grind, skill matters (if you haven't played a real 8vs8vs8vs8vs8 Tombs map or GvG you don't know what GW PvP is all about). Teamplay is very important. The fast-paced PvP reminds me of FPS clan fights a little.

3. The skill system that somewhat resembles Magic: The Gathering. 450+ skills but you can only build a deck of 8 and use them in connection to your character specification and specializations. Also building a good solid team build with 64 skills that covers most of the tactics and anti-tactics requires a lot of planning.

4. Streaming tech that downloads the game assets as you play the game. Brilliant! Fast bug fixes and exploits, new material,…

5. One of the best looking online RPGs to date.

6. A great single player story that will continue with chapters / expansion packs. Jess Lebow is the author (Baldur's Gate I and II,...).

7. Great network code. Runs and plays smooth like a baby po-po. Build for people with crappy connections.

8. No downtime, since multiple instances of servers can be run. They take some down and in the mean time you can play without interruptions.

9. No shards / realms. A global PvP/GvG network. You can switch to international districts with just a few mouse clicks. Real world-wide tournaments and GvG battles.

10. No monthly fee and you can still play with friends who have bought an expansion pack you didn’t.

This and the game is fun!

I actually do know what I'm talking about.

This game is a lot like diablo. Other than having better graphics i'd say it is a damn near diablo clone, other than the fact diablo isn't linear.

I have played it in the beta's, and here is how my experience went. Walk into an area, pretty much just a chatroom where people are looking for froup members but with graphics, get your group together go through a door to next area.

In next area you get 2 people maybe if your lucky out of the group that will work together the rest run ahead like they are in some kind of race.

Your right this is not a MMORPG, people keep calling it that but it really isn't. I think that many people are going to find that the battlenet/diablo kiddies are going to have a heyday with the casual players who want to play this game.

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Yeah, no person that I've seen criticize Guild Wars has produced any valid reason whatsoever.

Luckily, we're all still entitled to our opinions :). By the way, you do know that the game comes with a control setup menu, and gives you the choice of click-style or WASD-style combat? And all the character classes move at exactly the same speed unless you use a sprint or other fast movement ability -- logically enough. So are you sure we're talking about the same game? They also don't classify themselves as an MMORPG, so you can't blame them for not being what they're not trying to be.

Shrug. I don't think you know what you're talking about, but oh well.

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Uh, the game is far less a click-fest than most of the other MMORPGs I play, and the combat is also a lot more fast-paced than any other MMORPG I've played.

The game isn't as great as I once visioned it to be, but it still is going to be absolutely awesome when ArenaNET finished polishing/adding features to the game. It can only get better.

or maybe you just suck?

This game is just plain lousy. It reminds me of trying to play lets say Darkstone with people who just run off ahead and it seems more like an action game than a RPG.

Sucks, not MMORPG, more like 8 player chase-fest.

The Bad:
- Linear as hell
- Click fest
- Gotta have on super fast running shoes to keep up with rest of people in group.
- Real pain to use any tactics when clickety click click click click trying to keep up click click click kill monster click click

The good:
Graphics?

Totally over-rated game. I'd say super de duperty over-rated.

Laffman..........

This game is gonna rule online gaming.

You with me?

As far as building up a nice fanbase and getting everyone excited for this game, I must say that ArenaNet is doing a fine job. I have participated in 2 out of 3 of these and I am very excited about jumping into this game next year.

Woohoo. I missed a large part of the last event due to a move, but i'm glad to hear there will be another, and i'm sure they'll follow through with these "major" things as they have in the past. Every event has been a fairly large leap from the last.

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