Updated UT2K4 EULA

Epic Games has released an updated End-User License Agreement (EULA) for Unreal Tournament 2004. The new agreement has updated cheating rules and Divx & OC3 license information. Included is word for those who make modifications that they are now free to make use of the assets from prior Unreal Games:
We just LOVE the idea of you using and distributing content from any prior Epic Games, Unreal franchise game in Unreal Tournament 2004 Mod. Therefore we grant you a license to use to use content any prior Epic Games Unreal franchise game in Unreal Tournament 2004 Mods. For the sake of clarity you will not gain any ownership whatsoever in any Epic content nor can you use any Epic content outside the scope of the rights granted here. Any attempt to do so will bring about the wrath of our attorneys.
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Re: Just wondering
Dec 7, 2004, 06:55
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Re: Just wondering Dec 7, 2004, 06:55
Dec 7, 2004, 06:55
 
oO

The leg to stand on is section 10:

10. Complete Agreement. This license constitutes the entire agreement between the parties with respect to the use of the Software and the related documentation. However, Atari and Epic reserve the right to modify the terms of this license from time to time and will post notice of material changes somewhere within www.epicgames.com.

I think it's the only EULA that I've read, for the entertainment factor

13. Enjoyment Requirements. ... Now, be gone from the screen and enjoy the Software

If the screen I use to view the EULA is the same screen I use to play ut2004, does that mean I can't play it?

What exactly means "epic franchise game"?

Unreal, Return to Na Pali, Unreal Tournament, Unreal 2, XMP, Unreal Tournament 2003.

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Re: Just wondering
Dec 7, 2004, 05:48
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Re: Just wondering Dec 7, 2004, 05:48
Dec 7, 2004, 05:48
 
yeah i wondered the same thing. Maybe they are legally bound to give you your money back in exchange for the game now? After all, you bought a game with the old EULA. I reckon legally speaking these suietd creeps dont have a leg to stand on.

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Re: No subject
Dec 7, 2004, 02:31
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Dec 7, 2004, 02:31
 
Pinball and jazz jackrabbit.

They had the best pinball game.

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No subject
Dec 7, 2004, 00:09
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No subject Dec 7, 2004, 00:09
Dec 7, 2004, 00:09
 
Does this mean I can hang my ten foot nude poster of Brock?

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 23:54
PHJF
 
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Dec 6, 2004, 23:54
 PHJF
 
Epic as in Epic Games, not epic the adjective. Epic franchise game being any Unreal game Epic has made already.

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 21:09
Eps
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Dec 6, 2004, 21:09
Eps
 
. What exactly means "epic franchise game"? An example game name. ]

Umm, Unreal, Unreal 2, Unreal Tournament.

I think those are the main ones.


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Re: Just wondering
Dec 6, 2004, 19:22
PHJF
 
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Re: Just wondering Dec 6, 2004, 19:22
Dec 6, 2004, 19:22
 PHJF
 
Maybe you're agreeing to the EULA every time you play online or something?

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Re: Just wondering
Dec 6, 2004, 19:16
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Re: Just wondering Dec 6, 2004, 19:16
Dec 6, 2004, 19:16
 
whether or not this is legal? They've changed their EULA to allow you to use their prior content, so I'm not complaining or anything, but I'd be really curious to see if they could hold you to a EULA that was changed AFTER you "agreed" to it. AFAIK, every EULA is very hot on calling itself a "binding contract", and I don't think you can just change a binding contract without both parties agreeing and resigning?

Creston

It wouldn't be legal in the sense that it changed the terms of the contract you agreed to when you agreed to the EULA. The original EULA is still binding, but only on the original terms.

However, I'm assuming that when they released the content for all previous Epic Games Unreal franchise games they retained the exclusive right to that content. What they've done here is OK the limited use of that content by giving up the right to prosecute people who use that content in Unreal Tournament 2004 Mods. They can do that (give up their right) without another party agreeing to it.

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Just wondering
Dec 6, 2004, 18:57
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Just wondering Dec 6, 2004, 18:57
Dec 6, 2004, 18:57
 
whether or not this is legal? They've changed their EULA to allow you to use their prior content, so I'm not complaining or anything, but I'd be really curious to see if they could hold you to a EULA that was changed AFTER you "agreed" to it. AFAIK, every EULA is very hot on calling itself a "binding contract", and I don't think you can just change a binding contract without both parties agreeing and resigning?

Creston

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 18:45
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Dec 6, 2004, 18:45
 
Anyone ever play a single player game in UT2004? One with a story etc? I liked the engine. As it was multiplayer, I did not want to slog around figuring out how to make a singleplayer.

If there was a singleplayer to look at as an example, these old assets they are talking about could make a neat mod. What exactly means "epic franchise game"? An example game name.

Thanks.

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Dec 6, 2004, 18:06
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Dec 6, 2004, 18:06
 
Therefore we grant you a license to use to use content any prior Epic Games Unreal franchise game in Unreal Tournament 2004 Mods.

That sounds like... can it be? A CLUE!

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 17:54
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Dec 6, 2004, 17:54
 
Bring on unreal tournament 2004 xmp.

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Divx?
Dec 6, 2004, 17:44
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Divx? Dec 6, 2004, 17:44
Dec 6, 2004, 17:44
 
Where is Divx used in the game? and what is OC3 (other than a really fast internet connection.)

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 17:19
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Dec 6, 2004, 17:19
 
Are all EULA's worded like this? I don't think I've ever read one.

I was bored one day (VERY bored) and read the UT2k4 EULA; it's all worded like that. It's legal without taking itself too seriously, and actually made me laugh a couple of times. Every other EULA is technical and legal to the point of ambiguity.


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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 17:19
nin
 
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Dec 6, 2004, 17:19
 nin
 
Any attempt to do so will bring about the wrath of our attorneys.

Are all EULA's worded like this? I don't think I've ever read one.


Hey, at least they're honest!



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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 17:16
Rigs
 
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Dec 6, 2004, 17:16
 Rigs
 
That's freakin' hilarious...

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 17:14
PHJF
 
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Dec 6, 2004, 17:14
 PHJF
 
Any attempt to do so will bring about the wrath of our attorneys.

Are all EULA's worded like this? I don't think I've ever read one.

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Re: No subject
Dec 6, 2004, 17:12
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Dec 6, 2004, 17:12
 
They said "Unreal franchise" games.
That said, I somehow doubt they would be too pissed if ya did it anyway.

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Dec 6, 2004, 16:54
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Dec 6, 2004, 16:54
 
someone please make a jazz jackrabbit 3 mod... i know a sidescroller can be made with the engine

thanks

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